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Whoa! Just got my insurance bill.

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This is really bizarre, because I received a refund in a rather substantial amount as a result of the rollback. I was quite pleased. Of course, also horrified at what the increase was in the previous year. In Florida, everyone shares a bit in the pain of the coastal customers (of which Conch Out is one). But generally, people should be faring better now.

Lots of people have had their coverage cancelled for several reasons. First, many houses that were built prior to 1950 are not constructed to code. If you're cancelled for this reason, you can have an inspection and then rectify your problems and usually get reinstated (albeit at a higher rate). Second, the insurance carriers are jettisoning lower value customers in favor of the higher priced homes. It just happens that many of those are within coastal areas, which is a little backa--wards, but tells you these companies are thinking short-term. It is the job of the Legislature in FL to make sure that companies are not allowed to "cherry pick" their customers. They're in business to stay in business, but they also have an obligation to provide the coverage they advertise in their market areas. Unfortunately, the insurance business has become a real racket, I think. Consider...they skyrocketed rates in 2006 under the assumption that record storms were forecast for later that year, even advertised as such. When the storms didn't happen AT ALL that year (not so much as a tropical storm), they didn't reduce insurance rates accordingly. No, siree! They tried to raise them another 55 percent, at the same time reporting record profits in the company's history! Outrage.

I hate to diss on the Web site, but I found State Farm Insurance to be the biggest pain in the world when I held policies with them in the past. They are famous for the big gauge, it seems. Frankly, I willing to beg $$ that you can do much better than that company. And they are also famous for being quite difficult with claims. After Ivan, my claim was settled quickly and for the amount of the claim. In fact, I had a check in hand before the VISA bill arrived with the cleanup charges! (Not with State Farm, mind you. Had a minor auto claim once and the agent tried to talk me out of filing it, even though it was a brand new car.) Good luck.
 
Allstate increased me about 50% last year and dropped me this year. they say I can be picked up by Royal Palm. Are they going to be a Royal Pain? Anyone know what's up with them? I assume I am getting the Royal treatment. :pissed:

Kurt,

There are a bunch of "new" insurance companies that sprang up in months following our record hurricane (and subsequent policy-dropping)seasons....many of them have never had to pay out in the event of a major storm--so far. I've read stories that say some of these companies are founded and run by folks who've worked for the Citizens' Insurance Company in a previous life....:scratch:...imagine that.

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The really bad news is they didn't roll it into a nice, tight cylinder when they let me have it -- OUCH :eek:

By the way, you can now add me to the list of folks who think you are a guy. :floor: :eek:

BTW Tampa, I know some folks who got the boot from USAA on their 2nd home policies here in the panhandle.

Yep, they sent a letter out last week saying they will insure only one Florida homeowners' or renters policy per USAA member, and are not writing any new policies except to military members relocated to the state for active duty. I don't have the letter in front of me, but the CEO said that USAA collects about 12 percent of its premiums from Floridians while Floridians receive 47 percent of claims payments. :shock:

This is really bizarre, because I received a refund in a rather substantial amount as a result of the rollback. I was quite pleased.

Our home in Seacrest is insured by Florida Peninsula, and we got about a 25 percent refund in January. I believe some Citizens policy holders got one too. This was not in any way related to the recent legislation, it was a previous Florida law enactment finally being enforced.

What a joke the new legislation turned out to be. Not only is the Legislature realizing that its constituents are not going to be receiving substantial rate reductions from July 1-on, they also now understand the state is on the hook for billions of dollars since it has promised companies a huge amount of reinsurance coverage. So they are scrambling to fix this mistake.

One of the bills currently being considered -- listen up, SoWal! -- is that any coastal residents who take out a building permit for any reason be required to protect their homes with storm shutters. And no, plywood doesn't count. So if it passes, here is how it would go. Let's say SHELLY's insurance premium last year was $1500.

1) SHELLY pays new insurance premium of $3200.

2) In late 2007 SHELLY wants to enclose his porch for $2K and takes out building permit.

3) SHELLY now is required to also spend $10K on hurricane shutters.

4) SHELLY once again not dropped by State Farm in Spring 2008, and even gets that promised discount from last year! Subtract $250 for discount, and another $400 since his house now has hurricane shutters. Total still $2550. :roll:

5) SHELLY's roof blows off when hurricane strikes in August 2008. :shock:

6) In spring 2009, SHELLY is dropped by State Farm.

:bang: :bang: :bang: :pissed:
 
Yep, they sent a letter out last week saying they will insure only one Florida homeowners' or renters policy per USAA member, and are not writing any new policies except to military members relocated to the state for active duty. I don't have the letter in front of me, but the CEO said that USAA collects about 12 percent of its premiums from Floridians while Floridians receive 47 percent of claims payments. :shock:

USAA is an insurance/finance organization run (mostly) by former military members for the benefit of (mostly) active/retired military members...these folks know Risk and when and how to get out of the way.

USAA's Letter was included in an article today in The Motley Fool (Finance Site) entitled "Stupid Florida!"

The text of USAA's letter:
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Dear Florida Members,

I am writing to let you know that recent legislative and regulatory actions in Florida have created an untenable property insurance market in your state. Florida politics have severely restricted USAA's ability to charge adequate property insurance rates for the risk the association bears on behalf of its Florida members. These actions jeopardize our ability to protect the long-term viability of the association, as well as the assets of our members. Please consider the following facts:

1. Over the past 10 years, USAA has paid approximately $220 million more in Florida homeowner insurance losses and expenses than it has collected in Florida homeowner premiums.

2. Florida residents account for 49 percent of USAA's exposure to natural disaster risk, yet make up only 9 percent of USAA policyholders and pay 12 percent of USAA's property insurance premiums.

3. With more than $2 trillion in coastal property exposed to the risk of catastrophic hurricanes - and a history of frequent, strong storms across the state - Florida has the most challenging property insurance market in the country.

Therefore, the State of Florida has left us no choice but to take the following actions in order to limit potential future losses, and to protect the association and its members.

1. USAA will only provide new homeowner or renter insurance policies for the primary residences of active military members required to move to the state pursuant to military orders.

2. If your primary residence is in Florida and insured by USAA, USAA will continue to underwrite your existing homeowner or renter policy.

3. If your primary residence is located outside of Florida and insured by USAA, USAA will continue to underwrite one existing homeowner, fire, or renter policy in Florida.

4. Property insurance policies in Florida in excess of those cited above will be non-renewed upon written notice from USAA and in accordance with Florida's laws and regulations. We expect this change to affect about 10 percent of our 270,000 Florida members.

You can find more details in our Q&A.

We regret that Florida policymakers have forced us into this position, but without the ability to price insurance appropriately, it would be irresponsible to continue to place the entire association and its membership at risk. You may view a comparison of Florida homeowner insurance rates at FloridaToday.com. Additionally, you may wish to contact your state's lawmakers and regulators.

We value your membership in USAA, and will continue to serve your auto and life insurance, banking, and investment needs, as long as the State of Florida permits us to do so. If the Florida insurance market becomes more rational in the future, we will most certainly reconsider our position.

Sincerely,
Robert G. Davis
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END QUOTE

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what do you think of Citizen's? I have USAA for homeowners, citizens for wind, can't get flood (destiny west) and it han't renewed yet. I believe it is in May.
 
My experience with Citizens (wind) is that their rates were actually considerably lower than two other insurance carriers I received estimates from. At least they were offering coverage when others were running for the hills (2005).
 
We have not received any type of rebate from either of our insurance companies. (Citizens and Universal) We were dropped in November by Allstate and ended up going with Universal, who was taking over the Allstate dropped policies at the time. Of course we had to pay a lot more.

I continued to research insurance companies and rates. Very recently we switched everything to AIG. They are now insuring some houses in FL. They have to meet certain criteria, such as hurricane shutters, built recently, and it seems they have to add up to a certain value. The rate for our primary residence was cut almost in half and for much better coverage. The rate for the rental went up a bit, but it's better coverage and isn't Citizens.
 
what do you think of Citizen's?

Personally I've heard some less then stellar stories about Citizen's response to Ivan & Dennis claims from an acquaintance who has a place on Pensacola Beach. I'm even more concerned now that Citizens is taking on more risk than ever before and that it is under the watchful eye of the great state of Floriduh (which still hasn't figured out the dimpled vs. hanging chad conundrum). Being a risk averse person by nature, I've decided to let my policy ride with State Farm this year and watch the hurricane festivities from the sidelines.

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Got my Homeower's Insurance Renewal Notice Today:

The good news is that State Farm didn't drop my homeower's insurance.:D

The bad news is that is OVER a 100% increase from last year :shock:

Thanks Gov Crist...:roll:


There is a ole saying, "He who has the gold, makes the rules". All one has to do is look who contributed the most money to Crist's campaign to know why rates are not going to change. Regardless if its healthcare or homeowners insurance...their CEO's are always on the highest paid lists. Without serious campaign contribution reform nothing is going to happen in this state to reduce high taxes or the insurance issue.
 
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