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Stripes said:
I'm told that Walton County owns the streets in Seabreeze and that the Owners Association Board members are pulling up the signs from private property. My understanding is that only two homeowners have stood their ground and intend to maintain those temporary campaign signs until after the final election day of August 26th:clap:.
Whatever happened to America first, and Grandma's apple pie? Too many misguided busybodies roaming the neighborhoods I think, and they are definitely a threat to the 'American way'.
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I don't see where owning the streets has anything do do with covenants and restrictions? If they have covenants and restrictions in the deeds to the property within the subdivision that state no campaign signs are allowed in the yards, wouldn't that make it illegal to have them?
 
Reading the C&Rs right now. Did you know the HOA regulates the number of dogs and cats you can own in that subdivision? Did you know they call for no satellite dishes? I wonder how many Dish Network dishes are breaking the rules?

Section 17 (Signs) - notes that signs are not permitted, with the exception of a sign noting the occupant's name, or an
"approved" sign, advertising the property for sale.

If the streets are owned by the County and the signs are on the right of way, the signs are illegally placed.

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Doesn't this kind of action violate the "American Way" which has been in place since the American Revolution created our freedom?
Shame on you ignorant Board people in Seabreeze!
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Many people choose to live in a residential neighborhood which has very strict C&Rs. Other people choose to avoid them like the Plague. The American Way is having the choice to buy or rent in a neighborhood which you can afford, which meets your criteria. It has nothing to do with being able to do anything you want to do on your property. Before you buy or rent, you should take time to learn about the C&Rs, if any exist. If you are a homeowner in Seabreeze and are the one with the problem with the HOA, tell all of your neighbors to vote to amend section 17.
 
Here's a question that came to me. Why would you want to install a sign on a piece of property in a subdivision that by the own subdivisions covenants and restrictions is not allowed? Do you think that the sign will encourage people to vote for your candidate? Unless it is on one of the houses on 30-A it seems like it would only be seen by people that do not want to see signs. It appears that this would lead some people to vote against your preferred candidate instead of for them.

I just think there are better ways to reach your neighbors than by putting up a sign with someone's name on it in a neighborhood that has covenants and restrictions against such signs. Am I missing something? Note that I do not know who your candidate is so I am not saying you shouldn't support them, but it is likely that you are doing more harm than good.

Then again, that could be your goal altogether. ;-)
 
Smiling JOe said:
Reading the C&Rs right now. Did you know the HOA regulates the number of dogs and cats you can own in that subdivision? Did you know they call for no satellite dishes? I wonder how many Dish Network dishes are breaking the rules?
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The original deed restrictions for my subdivision limit yard signs, the number of pets, and tv antenna size. (satellite dishes weren't an issues back then) However, there is thankfully no HOA, and no interest in forming one, and the original developer who could legally say something about those issues doesn't really care what you do as long as it's not something that would be visible from the golf course.

As for Dish network, there's a longtime federal telecom rule that says you've got a right to put one on a single family home (and certain ways of legally placing one on a condo, apartment, or townhome) no matter what the HOA tries to claim.
 
BeachSiO2 said:
Here's a question that came to me. Why would you want to install a sign on a piece of property in a subdivision that by the own subdivisions covenants and restrictions is not allowed? Do you think that the sign will encourage people to vote for your candidate? Unless it is on one of the houses on 30-A it seems like it would only be seen by people that do not want to see signs. It appears that this would lead some people to vote against your preferred candidate instead of for them.

I just think there are better ways to reach your neighbors than by putting up a sign with someone's name on it in a neighborhood that has covenants and restrictions against such signs. Am I missing something? Note that I do not know who your candidate is so I am not saying you shouldn't support them, but it is likely that you are doing more harm than good.

Then again, that could be your goal altogether. ;-)
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People who make important voting decisions in this manner ("I won't vote for that candidate simply because I don't want to see his sign") prove themselves to be small minded people, and no doubt members of a small group (one of the usual, and inescapeable, negative 10 percentile that tends to populate every group). So, yes, you ARE missing something: these types of people waste a valuable voting right and "cut off their noses to spite their faces". Think about it. Are YOU a member of that group?
 
Stripes said:
What's this I hear about the Seabreeze community over by Camp Creek Lake? Supposedly the homeowners Board directors have been running around the neighborhood pulling candidate signs out of the ground and removing them:yikes:. Don't they realize these campaign signs are TEMPORARY signs? Doesn't this kind of action violate the "American Way" which has been in place since the American Revolution created our freedom?
Shame on you ignorant Board people in Seabreeze!:nono1::nono1:
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Stripes, it is apparent that you want these people to have freedom of expression, but these people chose to buy into a community, knowing the rules. They are public record, as I have shown above in my link. Would you like the HOA of Seabreeze to change their C&Rs, or did you just want to make the comment that you don't think people should protect their interests by having C&Rs? From what I read in the C&Rs, the HOA Board in Seabreeze isn't "ignorant" regarding the signs.
 
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