WH on HC for Illegals

[mtlinscomb]

WH on health care, illegal immigrants - First Read - msnbc.com

From NBC's Mike Viqueira
The White House tonight is providing the below clarification on what the president's health-care proposals would mean when it comes to the issue of illegal immigrants.
The question, as we all know, arises from the Wilson "You lie" outburst, and the core claim that notwithstanding specific bill language barring illegal immigrants from participating in the "exchange," as a practical matter, there is no way of verifying the citizenship of applicants -- which is the current state of play. Republicans say that then means illegal immigrants would end up being enrolled in plans -- bill language or no bill language.
Today, for the first time as far as we know, the administration is backing a provision that would require proof of citizenship before someone could enroll in a plan selected on the exchange.
Here, the administration also concedes that hospitals would be compensated with public funds for the care of undocumented immigrants.


The bullet points sent tonight by the White House:

• Undocumented immigrants would not be able to buy private insurance on the exchange. Those who are lawfully present in this country would be able to participate.
• Undocumented immigrants would be able to buy insurance in the non-exchange private market, just as they do today. That market will shrink as the exchange takes hold, but it will still exist and will be subject to reforms such as the bans on pre-existing conditions and caps.
• Verification will be required when purchasing health insurance on the exchange. One option is the SAVE program (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) which states currently use to make sure that undocumented immigrants don't participate in safety-net programs for which they are ineligible.
• There would be no change in the law that requires emergency rooms to treat people who need emergency care, including undocumented immigrants. There is already a federal grant program that compensates states for emergency room costs associated with treatment of undocumented immigrants, a provision sponsored by a Republican lawmaker.

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Though the "you lie" comment could have been made at a better venue, the accuracy of the comment seems to be a bulls eye. This weekend, Obama and Kathleen keep using the word intent when covering the topics of illegals and abortion, but intent is not a concrete word. My intent when buying a lottery ticket is to win, but that is yet to happen.

 

[Kurt]

Please use quote tags so we can tell what you are quoting and what you are commenting.

 

[kkddbb]

shouting "you lie" during a presidents speech is simply dumb-period. but, when pelosi allowed the goons over at code pink etc to shout down congressional hearings on a daily basis it was ok? the hypocrisy is all too transparent and the lib media and the lib blogs dont care about that in the least. just like this story was more important all last week than ACORN's mass corruption of taxpayer dollars.

our president is a constitutional counselor, right? so he knows more than anyone that the constitution does not allow the gov to single out class. of course he's lying, to not lie means informing the people of this very bill which he and the dems are afraid of for obvious reason. its not politically expedient to tell the truth for the left. if you oppose it, your racist and everything else under the sun. this speech was sickening. blaming everyone for everything and smearing those who are telling the american people whats actually in this bill is not the hope and change i was promised thats for sure. always question a politician that promises the world.

this is the same gov that has turned their heads for decades while us legal americans have been robbed. and its the same party that continues to allow it because it helps at the polls.

 

[TooFarTampa]

Hospitals are already compensated with public funds for care given to undocumented aliens (and others who can't or don't pay). In fact, I believe it is federal law that publicly funded hospitals cannot turn away anyone in an emergency regardless of ability to pay. Good luck changing any of that anytime soon.

 

[Bob]

shouting "you lie" during a presidents speech is simply dumb-period. but, when pelosi allowed the goons over at code pink etc to shout down congressional hearings on a daily basis it was ok? the hypocrisy is all too transparent and the lib media and the lib blogs dont care about that in the least. just like this story was more important all last week than ACORN's mass corruption of taxpayer dollars.

our president is a constitutional counselor, right? so he knows more than anyone that the constitution does not allow the gov to single out class. of course he's lying, to not lie means informing the people of this very bill which he and the dems are afraid of for obvious reason. its not politically expedient to tell the truth for the left. if you oppose it, your racist and everything else under the sun. this speech was sickening. blaming everyone for everything and smearing those who are telling the american people whats actually in this bill is not the hope and change i was promised thats for sure. always question a politician that promises the world.

this is the same gov that has turned their heads for decades while us legal americans have been robbed. and its the same party that continues to allow it because it helps at the polls.

yes, you have been robbed

 

[Here4Good]

shouting "you lie" during a presidents speech is simply dumb-period. but, when pelosi allowed the goons over at code pink etc to shout down congressional hearings on a daily basis it was ok?

When did Code Pink ever heckle a congressional hearing and not get thrown out/asked to sit down and shut up?

 

[kkddbb]

When did Code Pink ever heckle a congressional hearing and not get thrown out/asked to sit down and shut up?

WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MATTER IF THEY WERE ASKED TO LEAVE OR NOT? IT HAPPENED AND IT HAPPENED ALMOST DAILY. WHY NITPICKIT? TWO WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT. DO I ACTUALLY NEED TO LIST THE COMMENTS OF CERTAIN DEMS, BLOGS AND CERTAIN MEDIA TYPES ABOUT BUSH DURING HIS TERM? LETS TRY AND PUT POLITICS ASIDE AND LOOK AT THIS FOR WHAT IT IS-HYPOCRISY. THE QUICKER WE ALL DO THIS, THE QUICKER WE CAN BRING AMERICA BACK TO WHERE SHE USED TO BE.

 

[kkddbb]

yes, you have been robbed

AND SO HAVE YOU. BUT, IF THE DEMS ARE DOING THE STEALING I SUPPOSE ITS OK WITH YOU, RIGHT?

 

[poppy]

WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MATTER IF THEY WERE ASKED TO LEAVE OR NOT? IT HAPPENED AND IT HAPPENED ALMOST DAILY. WHY NITPICKIT? TWO WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT. DO I ACTUALLY NEED TO LIST THE COMMENTS OF CERTAIN DEMS, BLOGS AND CERTAIN MEDIA TYPES ABOUT BUSH DURING HIS TERM? LETS TRY AND PUT POLITICS ASIDE AND LOOK AT THIS FOR WHAT IT IS-HYPOCRISY. THE QUICKER WE ALL DO THIS, THE QUICKER WE CAN BRING AMERICA BACK TO WHERE SHE USED TO BE.

Tell us precisely where you think that should be, please be specific.

 

[kkddbb]

tell us precisely where you think that should be, please be specific.

do i really need to specify? Do you really not know the america of our grandparents versus the one we have inherited and one that we will be passing on? This is a joke, right? And no, i dont think itll be better if a repub were running things. This is way above party lines....