Hampton Inn Seagrove Beach on Chateau Hotel Property

[Bob Wells]

I think it's a little late for any complaining. They couple just as easily build several large homes that sleep 15 or more. Does it fit in with appearance? Probably! Will it bring in unwanted elements? I can only imagine those rooms won't be cheap so it's not like they would be setting up a homeless encampment.


The real issue is traffic. We are at a point where the building isn't going to stop. We should be actively working on 30A traffic on a broad scale. Off site resort parking with shuttles during the busy seasons, Non-stop shuttles running up and down 30A, golf cart lanes.
Shuttles work at Disney, work great on St. Thomas Island and were inexpensive to ride so I don't think it would be hard for the county to find an eco friendly way to move people and goods to their destination. If you give people a good alternative they will surely follow!

I would be interested in who will be paying for these ideas? Public / Private partnership, public only, private only, or we going to change the law on what TDC money can be used for? Where are you proposing a golf cart path?

 

[Lake View Too]

I think talk about shuttles and trolleys is highly unrealistic. I think more connectors roads are a necessity. I can't fathom why a road can't be built just east of Eastern Lake. One solitary road can't possibly upset the ecosystem any more than the massive amounts of cars that try to get onto 30-A right now.

 

[Bob Wells]

I agree LVT. It seems that thought was brought up a few years ago and boy it went over like someone was throwing rocks at houses.

 

[Glambo]

What I stated a few posts back was the reply I got when I asked a commissioner, directly, what can we do about fixing the zoning problem. She said they are constantly threatened by lawsuits, and any attempts at reform of the zoning ordinances are stifled by planning department and planning commission. These aren't elected positions, so I can't see an easy solution. Right minded people can attempt to get positions on planning department and planning commission, but that process is probably arduous, at best.

I'd like to ask Glambo what he or she believes to be a viable plan for traffic management. This is the major looming crisis.

Roundabouts are becoming increasingly popular as solutions to high density intersections. Here is an interesting summary of a roundabout project in Woodinville, Washington in a heavy tourist area that sounds similar to the intersection of 395 and 30-A. http://www.awcnet.org/Apps/ma/projects/2011Woodinville2.pdf

 

[beachmouse]

I like roundabouts. Once you get used to them, they're safer than stop signs, and make a lot more sense and have easier rules than the three fingers lifted off the steering wheel 'no, you go next' you get at 2-4 way stop signs.

 

[Lake View Too]

At our most heavily trafficked intersection, 30-A and 395, I just don't see how a roundabout would work,as long as the bike path is involved. The only way I could see a roundabout there is if the bike path was re-routed south of 30-A which has many property rights issues involved, or re-routed much further north to Grove Street or Forest. Then you still have to deal with the lack of right of way to build a large enough roundabout.

 

[Jdarg]

Roundabouts are becoming increasingly popular as solutions to high density intersections. Here is an interesting summary of a roundabout project in Woodinville, Washington in a heavy tourist area that sounds similar to the intersection of 395 and 30-A. http://www.awcnet.org/Apps/ma/projects/2011Woodinville2.pdf

That idea was proposed and thankfully wisdom prevailed (as of now) - I don't believe the idea is currently being considered. The intersection is just too small for a functioning roundabout.

If you use the search engine on this website, you can find lots of past discussion of the roundabout proposal.

 

[Bob Wells]

I have seen a lot of folks use the round a bout at the court house in the Southend....it is sometime just to funny. Good thing there is only light traffic there.

 

[dslbcl2008]

I am curious. Have the area environmentalists weighed in on all of this? Are they attending meetings? It seems to me that incresing construction and land development, vehicle emitted smog (or any other), garbage, over-use of land and ocean (increased foot traffic, fishing, etc, WILL upset 30A's fragile eco system, not to mention quality of human life. I know many who come to 30A to heal, rejuvinate and enjoy nature.

 

[Zebraspots]

Anyone who thinks roundabouts are a good idea should go over to Pier Park and watch people attempt to navigate their roundabouts. Noone has a clue how to drive in them.