Anti-war groups fizzle under Obama

[Geo]

Here's the recap----

Andrew: Obama is weak.

Geo: Really? How? Weak based on what?

Andrew: Here are some editorials of people who think he is weak.

Geo: Dude, those are *opinions* of talking heads. Do you have anything of substance to support your assertion that he is weak?

Andrew: Prove to me he's strong. You got nothing.

Geo: Okay. Fine. My argument against Obama being weak is based on Bush's own counter-terrorism people saying he is as strong or stronger than Bush on terrorism, he has tripled missile attacks against terrorists hiding in Pakistan compared to Bush, he is even stronger than Bush on immigration. He's deported twice as many illegals and quadrupled the number of audits of businesses employing illegals. This is supported by credible sources.

Andrew: Did you read my editorials? And here is a survey that says Obama isn't as popular this year as last year in Egypt. You know he caused this Egypt thing.

Geo: Um...

Andrew: You are blind and I just can't make you see.

 

[BeachSiO2]

Here's the recap----

Andrew: Obama is weak.

Geo: Really? How? Weak based on what?

Andrew: Here are some editorials of people who think he is weak.

Geo: Dude, those are *opinions* of talking heads. Do you have anything of substance to support your assertion that he is weak?

Andrew: Prove to me he's strong. You got nothing.

Geo: Okay. Fine. My argument against Obama being weak is based on Bush's own counter-terrorism people saying he is as strong or stronger than Bush on terrorism, he has tripled missile attacks against terrorists hiding in Pakistan compared to Bush, he is even stronger than Bush on immigration. He's deported twice as many illegals and quadrupled the number of audits of businesses employing illegals. This is supported by credible sources.

Andrew: Did you read my editorials? And here is a survey that says Obama isn't as popular this year as last year in Egypt. You know he caused this Egypt thing.

Geo: Um...

Andrew: You are blind and I just can't make you see.

Show me the birth certificate!

;-)

 

[AndrewG]

Here's the recap----

Andrew: Obama is weak.

Geo: Really? How? Weak based on what?

Andrew: Here are some editorials of people who think he is weak.

Geo: Dude, those are *opinions* of talking heads. Do you have anything of substance to support your assertion that he is weak?

Andrew: Prove to me he's strong. You got nothing.

Geo: Okay. Fine. My argument against Obama being weak is based on Bush's own counter-terrorism people saying he is as strong or stronger than Bush on terrorism, he has tripled missile attacks against terrorists hiding in Pakistan compared to Bush, he is even stronger than Bush on immigration. He's deported twice as many illegals and quadrupled the number of audits of businesses employing illegals. This is supported by credible sources.

Andrew: Did you read my editorials? And here is a survey that says Obama isn't as popular this year as last year in Egypt. You know he caused this Egypt thing.

Geo: Um...

Andrew: You are blind and I just can't make you see.

You just like to argue what can I say. You quote leftwing sources CNN and the BBC as if they are trustworthy non-biased sources. Try to get info from a rightwing source, that would substantiate your "facts". Being weak is a major perception problem for this administration. Your desire to argue it doesn't make it go away.

Here's an article that supports many of my issues. This reporter isn't even an American. He's from England.

The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown ? Telegraph Blogs

 

[Geo]

You just like to argue what can I say. You quote leftwing sources CNN and the BBC as if they are trustworthy non-biased sources. Try to get info from a rightwing source, that would substantiate your "facts". Being weak is a major perception problem for this administration. Your desire to argue it doesn't make it go away.

Here's an article that supports many of my issues. This reporter isn't even an American. He's from England.

The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown ? Telegraph Blogs

Andrew,

The problem with Barack Obama as POTUS and politican is that he tries to reason with unreasonable people. He refuses to acknowledge that he is surrounded by the disingenuous. I suffer from the same ailment by continuing to go back and forth with you.

To support my argument I provide you with (as an example) the words of George Bush's counter-terrorism experts. These are retired military men (safe to say these are not liberals and are presumably republicans).

Your response-

This source isn't trustworthy and is biased and I should provide you with data from a right wing source to substantiate my "facts".



I could provide you with a video of Osama Bin Laden telling Andersen Cooper in a cave that Barack Obama really means business and is kicking some Al Queda butt in Pakistan. He could be saying that he longs for the days of the George Bush presidency when people talked tough while all the while they were just distracted in Iraq. Your response would be to disregard the content because CNN is a biased left wing source and your rebuttal would come from an editorial written by some talking head- probably forwarded to you by some wingnut who hasn't gotten over the McCain loss and who thinks Palin is a good candidate because she isn't weak like Obama.

You are correct- I do like to argue. But not with you. You don't respect well established conventions of argumentation.

So I bid you goodbye for now, Andrew. Your screenname has earned a place on my ignore list for a while. No loss to you, I'm sure. But I really need a break from your brand of discussion. Perhaps it's mutual.