Beach Property Rights - public/private

[Bear]

Here This dose not fix our problem but it shows Florida is taking a step in the right direction.


http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/article_bamp.cfm?id=12269

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

Here This dose not fix our problem but it shows Florida is taking a step in the right direction.


http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/article_bamp.cfm?id=12269

Thanks for the link. From what I see, this does NOTHING to facilitate the transformation of private beach property to public.

Gov. Crist stated in the video link above that he was protecting the access to (existing) PUBLIC beaches. In other words, public beaches should not be landlocked by adjacent development.

We discussed this concept at length in other message threads.

It seems that there are those who would intentionally confuse the two issues in order to further their own personal agenda for confiscating private property.

From Surfrider:
?We are delighted to finally see the full protection of beach access,? said Ericka D?Avanzo, Florida Regional Manager of the Surfrider Foundation. ?Now recreational beach users can be assured that as growth continues along our coastline, we should not see any future loss of ocean access points.? This was accomplished through a clarification of Florida Statue Chapter 161, clarifying that the Florida Department of Environmental Protection protect all legally acquired beach access in their Coastal Construction Control Line permitting process.

 

[InletBchDweller]

You can check the TDC site for the map of the public accesses maintained by the TDC. Having flags and TDC trashcans doesn't equate to "public maintained accesses."

I don't think the County has the authority to make such ordinance regarding public/private beaches. Just my opinion. Nor do I think that the County is willing to face a class action lawsuit if they decide to act on creating such an ordinance.

No, it is not a public access. It was built, is owned and maintained by the Rosemary homeowners. SJ is correct, the flag locations don't have anything to do with the accesses being public or not. Some are at public accesses and many are not.

Thanks for the info....

 

[Capricious]

They should also look into the laws regarding piers and the fact that people can tie up a boat to any pier that is in the water. They can even get out of the boat and sit on your pier as long as they dont step foot off the last board onto dry land.

Can you provide cites on these laws?

I am not aware of them.

 

[Will B]

I was in Nashville this weekend on a FAM trip for an upcoming convention. One of the attendees was from Stokholm, Sweeden. I have no idea how private vs. public property came up, but it did. He said something very intersting. In Sweeden there is no such thing as private property regarding coastlines and beaches. Of course this comes with the European / Scandanavian sensibilities and mentalities especially when it comes to us Americans suing the pants off of each other for stupid little trivial stuff. He got a good chuckle out of what is going on in Sowal.

Not making statements as to what is right or wrong...just passing along a story so put your guns back on safety!

 

[John R]

From Surfrider:
?We are delighted to finally see the full protection of beach access,? said Ericka D?Avanzo, Florida Regional Manager of the Surfrider Foundation. ?Now recreational beach users can be assured that as growth continues along our coastline, we should not see any future loss of ocean access points.? This was accomplished through a clarification of Florida Statue Chapter 161, clarifying that the Florida Department of Environmental Protection protect all legally acquired beach access in their Coastal Construction Control Line permitting process.

This is great news.

Maybe now is the time for BlueMountainBeachWalker to enlighten us with all the information he's dug up about Surfrider. You know, remember when he was whining so much, requesting their tax #? That stuff was pure gold.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

This is great news.

Maybe now is the time for BlueMountainBeachWalker to enlighten us with all the information he's dug up about Surfrider. You know, remember when he was whining so much, requesting their tax #? That stuff was pure gold.

Why are you bringing that up again now? And what the hell does that have to do with this?

 

[John R]

Why are you bringing that up again now? And what the hell does that have to do with this?

Well, let's see; private beaches, public beaches, property rights, beach access, security thugs, offsite owner's access, beach access, historical use, Surfrider...things that we've been discussing over the last 6 months, all in one untidy mess.

Then I remembered your friend bmbw and his incessant requests and jabs at Bobby and Surfrider. We never saw any resolution, and the Surfrider access mentions reminded me of it. And since he got on the BMSS bus and reared his little head some posts back, I fancied it would be a good time to hear what he made of all that. And it's thanksgiving, so I'm thankful for comedic relief. And as a bonus, the above.

Can we come over for some turkey? I'm thankful that we don't see any gun turrets over there, yet.

 

[Bobby J]

Why are you bringing that up again now? And what the hell does that have to do with this?

The video Bear had was a Surfrider meeting and the bill that passed was from Surfrider. You speak of private beaches, they speak of access. They do tie together but each issue is separate. I see your point. I hope one day we can all come to common ground.

 

[30A Skunkape]

I'm just wondering who would have a reasonable expectation that people wouldn't wander onto 'their' land when 'their' land is a beach that is marketed nationally to attract people. If people poking around on the beach gives the landowner an ulcer, either erect a barbed wire fence ala property lines elsewhere and be done with it or sell the property and relocate to an area where the menace of benign trespassing does not exist. An analogy is living on a parade route in New Orleans...you know people are going to be loitering in front of your house at all hours two weeks out of the year, and most homeowners roll with it because Mardi Gras is great for the city. In a similar fashion, if the tourists are recieved with hostility while trying to go to the beach, they will go elsewhere. Bottom line-no tourists, no SOWAL as we know it.