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scooterbug44 said:
Study your history - when the Constitution was written only white male property owners were allowed to have certain rights - among them voting. Thus, making landownership one of the prerequisitives to drive a vehicle on the beach does NOT violate the Constitution.

I've never heard anyone complain that they couldn't drive on the beach because they didn't own property - more that they didn't have the appropriate vehicle.

Owning beach land isn't the criteria, owning land anywhere in Walton County (yes, even north of the bay) is the criteria. Since one could argue that a family in Freeport is more likely to own a 4 wheel drive vehicle than a family in Seaside, your attempt to make it a class issue falls flat. A lack of land ownership does not preclude anyone from enjoying the beach, merely driving on it!

And as far as ecological damage, that is why you can only drive your vehicle on one small part of the beach.
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So just to make sure I understand your position, it is okay to destroy the environment on one small piece of sand?

Land ownership is bestowing a set up rights on a class of land owners. What about full time renters? They get the benefit of paying higher taxes than most landowners, at least those with homesteaded property, yet they do not get a key benefit that only a landowner gets. I say, let them eat cake!
 
What's really interesting about the beach permit issue is that it requires ownership of Walton County land. As a taxpayer can I use the address of one of the local parks? Also it seems that it is an established customer use issue since anyone in Walton County has the right to use the beach. :scratch:
 
wrobert said:
So just to make sure I understand your position, it is okay to destroy the environment on one small piece of sand?

Land ownership is bestowing a set up rights on a class of land owners. What about full time renters? They get the benefit of paying higher taxes than most landowners, at least those with homesteaded property, yet they do not get a key benefit that only a landowner gets. I say, let them eat cake!
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No, what I am saying is that ecological concerns are why you can only drive on a small piece of highly regulated beach instead of the entire beach.

If you feel so strongly, work to make property ownership OR residency a requirement.
 
wrobert said:
Well I believe that the whole owning property requirement is a bit over the top, it does not say how much property. So if you need to own some Walton County property, let me know, I can fix you up with a sq foot to meet requirement. While you will have to pay the county annually for the permit, you can buy me off just once.
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That may be considered a lot split and that may not be allowed. You might need a pemit for that. Or a minor development order. You may need to charge more for the square foot of land to cover the fees. Of course if they don't approve it, the fees may not be refundable. Better check with Planning on that one.:funn:
 
doxiegirl said:
That may be considered a lot split and that may not be allowed. You might need a pemit for that. Or a minor development order. You may need to charge more for the square foot of land to cover the fees. Of course if they don't approve it, the fees may not be refundable. Better check with Planning on that one.:funn:
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As long as I am not claiming it as buildable. Last time I asked planning a question it took them a year to return the phone call, and the information they gave me was contrary to Florida statute, so I will just take my chances.
 
You know this thing is really easy to fix. Collier County did it with no problems. Just declare that a portion of your ad valorem taxes pay for the beach permit, that is why property owners get them for a $100 and charge everyone else that does not pay property taxes directly, $250. Give the cost of permitting to the tax collector for doing it and the balance to the SO for enforcement.
 
scooterbug44 said:
I wasn't aware it NEEDED fixing.

What is wrong w/ the current system? :idontno:
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The current system is illegal. But it does allow class control of the beach accesses. And like walmart and mcdonald's, the lack of access will make many people happy.
 
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