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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/opinion/09friedman.html?em Our One-Party Democracy
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: September 8, 2009

Watching both the health care and climate/energy debates in Congress, it is hard not to draw the following conclusion: There is only one thing worse than one-party autocracy, and that is one-party democracy, which is what we have in America today.
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One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century. It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power. China?s leaders understand that in a world of exploding populations and rising emerging-market middle classes, demand for clean power and energy efficiency is going to soar. Beijing wants to make sure that it owns that industry and is ordering the policies to do that, including boosting gasoline prices, from the top down.

Our one-party democracy is worse. The fact is, on both the energy/climate legislation and health care legislation, only the Democrats are really playing. With a few notable exceptions, the Republican Party is standing, arms folded and saying ?no.? Many of them just want President Obama to fail. Such a waste. Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he?s a centrist. But if he?s forced to depend entirely on his own party to pass legislation, he will be whipsawed by its different factions.

Look at the climate/energy bill that came out of the House. Its sponsors had to work twice as hard to produce this breakthrough cap-and-trade legislation. Why? Because with basically no G.O.P. representatives willing to vote for any price on carbon that would stimulate investments in clean energy and energy efficiency, the sponsors had to rely entirely on Democrats ? and that meant paying off coal-state and agriculture Democrats with pork. Thank goodness, it is still a bill worth passing. But it could have been much better ? and can be in the Senate. Just give me 8 to 10 Republicans ready to impose some price on carbon, and they can be leveraged against Democrats who want to water down the bill.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/opinion/09friedman.html?em Our One-Party Democracy
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: September 8, 2009

Watching both the health care and climate/energy debates in Congress, it is hard not to draw the following conclusion: There is only one thing worse than one-party autocracy, and that is one-party democracy, which is what we have in America today.
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One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century. It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power. China?s leaders understand that in a world of exploding populations and rising emerging-market middle classes, demand for clean power and energy efficiency is going to soar. Beijing wants to make sure that it owns that industry and is ordering the policies to do that, including boosting gasoline prices, from the top down.

Our one-party democracy is worse. The fact is, on both the energy/climate legislation and health care legislation, only the Democrats are really playing. With a few notable exceptions, the Republican Party is standing, arms folded and saying ?no.? Many of them just want President Obama to fail. Such a waste. Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he?s a centrist. But if he?s forced to depend entirely on his own party to pass legislation, he will be whipsawed by its different factions.

Look at the climate/energy bill that came out of the House. Its sponsors had to work twice as hard to produce this breakthrough cap-and-trade legislation. Why? Because with basically no G.O.P. representatives willing to vote for any price on carbon that would stimulate investments in clean energy and energy efficiency, the sponsors had to rely entirely on Democrats ? and that meant paying off coal-state and agriculture Democrats with pork. Thank goodness, it is still a bill worth passing. But it could have been much better ? and can be in the Senate. Just give me 8 to 10 Republicans ready to impose some price on carbon, and they can be leveraged against Democrats who want to water down the bill.

It's Bush's fault ...... and I'm a moderate republican ashamed of southerners - signed Bob.
 
what a completely bogus article and an incredibly irresponsible piece. its complete propaganda and provides no proof of any of its political claims and is plain as day ideology. theres so many ways to debunk this its almost unbelievable that the editor would release it. but wait, its not interested in providing information in the least. It is however interested in playing politics. its so wonder why so many in our society are so misinformed on the world around them. and than theres the simple mind that will take this as informative and even perhaps, fact. journalistic malpractice is at an all time high in this country. leave it to the left to take for granted one our greatest freedoms, freedom of the press. playing politics is more important i suppose....:bang:
 
Obama's a centrist?? really??
 
first a question - why not quote the entire article in orginial post? It wasn't that much longer and the entire read provided more balance I believe...appreciate the link though

Friedman def has a point of view and makes arguments worth debating. I do not dismiss his points as "ideology" but usually find them thought provoking, especially his longer works that develop from his travels and interviews across the world.

My representative in the House is the Hon. John Boehner. To my disappointment, he epitiomizes Friedman's point about the politics of "NO". I can agree with Friedman on that point. The art of compromise is missing from our political debate and has been missing for some time. Our practice of demonizing those with differing opinions diminishes us all. The media culture sucks us all into this dispiriting type of discussion and I am not better for it.

I do write my representative to offer my opinion and encourage him to negotiate and compromise, but I doubt it will happen.
 
The art of compromise is missing from our political debate and has been missing for some time. Our practice of demonizing those with differing opinions diminishes us all. The media culture sucks us all into this dispiriting type of discussion and I am not better for it.

You have very effectively summed up what is wrong with both modern politics and any discussion of politics.

I think compromise and finding common ground instead of spending even more money we don't have to pay for votes is something we can all agree would be a welcome change.
 
what a completely bogus article and an incredibly irresponsible piece. its complete propaganda and provides no proof of any of its political claims and is plain as day ideology. theres so many ways to debunk this its almost unbelievable that the editor would release it. but wait, its not interested in providing information in the least. It is however interested in playing politics. its so wonder why so many in our society are so misinformed on the world around them. and than theres the simple mind that will take this as informative and even perhaps, fact. journalistic malpractice is at an all time high in this country. leave it to the left to take for granted one our greatest freedoms, freedom of the press. playing politics is more important i suppose....:bang:
you lie!
 
BOB! I just knew you were actually R. E. Lee!!!!! :floor:

('member...that's where I went to school....NO LIE!)
 
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