The President's Speech

[Daugette_Matt]

so let me get this right. It's ok for a congressman to heckle the president? As long as he's a dem. If he's a rep who wants to go to war, then if you don't agree you're not a patriot?

and health care does not need reform because it will bankrupt the country?
the republicans are some sore loosers. Your president broke the world and made rich folks richer.

 

[Rita]

so let me get this right. It's ok for a congressman to heckle the president? As long as he's a dem. If he's a rep who wants to go to war, then if you don't agree you're not a patriot?

and health care does not need reform because it will bankrupt the country?
the republicans are some sore loosers. Your president broke the world and made rich folks richer.

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Matt - this post is confusing .....
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I will admit that I am easily confused sometimes though.

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[Miss Kitty]

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Matt - this post is confusing .....
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I will admit that I am easily confused sometimes though.

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Rita....I read it three times and it jsut kept getting more confusing. Maybe this poster will come back and untangle it for us.

 

[Daugette_Matt]

I was interupted during my post and lost my train of thought.
republicans are sore loosers, and they will keep loosing. morons like hannity, rush, and the others are going to yell their way out of existence.
I do not believe Obama can destroy our country. Bush got close, but obama is not nearly that stupid. Bush spent eight years screwing up our country and the rest of the world. his contribution to the economy included Enron,(long time bush family pals) AIG, the insurance company that could not insure anything, The stock market crash, and of course 3ooo dead americans in military uniforms blown up in some god forsaken desert.
If you hate obama, fine, but not putting some of the blame for all of this on W is just stupid.

 

[Here4Good]

Joe Wilson claims Dems are trying to silence him

And I quote:
"On these issues, I will not be muzzled, I will speak up and speak loudly against this risky plan," Wilson said in a YouTube video released Thursday evening. "The supporters of the government takeover of health care and the liberals who want to give health care to illegals are using my opposition as an excuse to distract from the critical questions being raised about this poorly conceived plan." The congressman disbursed the video via Twitter and asked his followers to "please watch and pass on."
"[Democrats] want to silence anyone who speaks out against it," Wilson also says in the video. "They made it clear they want to defeat me and pass the plan. I need your help now… contribute to my effort to defeat the proponents of government-run health care."


No, Rep Wilson, you idiot, we just want you to act like an intelligent, mature human being and not shout at the President during a speech like a hyena.

 

[Winnie]

so let me get this right. It's ok for a congressman to heckle the president? As long as he's a dem. If he's a rep who wants to go to war, then if you don't agree you're not a patriot?

and health care does not need reform because it will bankrupt the country?
the republicans are some sore loosers. Your president broke the world and made rich folks richer.

My President is Barack Obama. My world isn't broken.

I was interupted during my post and lost my train of thought.
republicans are sore loosers, and they will keep loosing. morons like hannity, rush, and the others are going to yell their way out of existence.
I do not believe Obama can destroy our country. Bush got close, but obama is not nearly that stupid. Bush spent eight years screwing up our country and the rest of the world. his contribution to the economy included Enron,(long time bush family pals) AIG, the insurance company that could not insure anything, The stock market crash, and of course 3ooo dead americans in military uniforms blown up in some god forsaken desert.
If you hate obama, fine, but not putting some of the blame for all of this on W is just stupid.

I prefer your earlier post to the later one.

 

[Teresa]

Rita....I read it three times and it jsut kept getting more confusing. Maybe this poster will come back and untangle it for us.

I hope he will also magically sprout some common courtesy.

 

[Smiling JOe]

matt, in case you forgot, Bush did whatever he did with the House and Senate's approval (wasn't it a democratic house and senate? -- I forget all those details....)

Also, like it or not, Bush was your President as much as Obama is because he was elected (supposedly, though some disagree).

Regarding the freshman senator from SC, I see nothing wrong different in his vocal disagreement with the President, than the many interruptions of standing and applauding. It is all partisan politics. One is agreement and one is disagreement, but both are nothing more than showing whose side one is on.

Regarding the particular comment about Obama lying, was the senator wrong? Obama claimed to be setting the facts straight, but who here believes that illegal aliens will not receive health care under this health care bill if it is passed? Rather ironic, since they seem to be the only current people who receive free medical benefits via the emergency room. On the other hand, since the illegal aliens are already receiving free health care, paid by US taxpayers, maybe the senator should vent his frustration with that.

Senator Harry Reid, once said, "you have to call them as you see them," after referring to his comments that Bush was a liar. I agree. (by the way, he never apologized to Bush.)

Thinking a bit about the outrage of the press and some individuals over the freshman senator's quick outburst (which was much less lengthy than the many outburst of applause), it seems that we have lost relevance. The actions of the gov't such as ridiculous and wasteful spending, continued war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the continence of the unconstitutional Patriot Act, unfair taxation, etc, should raise far more eyebrows than one senator expressing his thoughts. If there is outrage, it should be against all of the senators and congressmen who voted for us to go to war, who voted for the Patriot Act, who voted for wasteful spending, etc. Get for real.

 

[Lake View Too]

Bush passed all his agenda with a Republican dominated congress through six years of his terms. He also was one of the only presidents in history to never use a veto to stop any legislation. That emphatically includes the Irag war and tax cuts for the rich, each of which have cost us more than the proposed heath reform bill will cost us.

As to Wilson, if his defense of his outburst is that the Republicans offered two amendments that would have verified the exclusion of illegal aliens from recieving benefit from the reform bill, I'd really like a Democrat to step forward to explain why these amendments were defeated in committee. Were they loaded with riders or language not pertaining directly to the issue? I'd like to see more light on this issue, rather than all this hoopla over manners.

 

[30ashopper]

Bush passed all his agenda with a Republican dominated congress through six years of his terms. He also was one of the only presidents in history to never use a veto to stop any legislation. That emphatically includes the Irag war and tax cuts for the rich, each of which have cost us more than the proposed heath reform bill will cost us.

Bush pproposed and signed into law tax cuts for the rich, middle class, and poor, after Clinton jacked them up on all income groups. Obama has pledged to keep all of Bush's tax cuts under 250K a year. Be careful what you complain about - regardless of how much you make, you have Bush to thank for your lower tax rate. You might not be thanking Obama though in a year or so.

I would also question whether tax cuts on those that make 250K a year generate more than 1 - 2 trillion over ten years (what health reform may end up costing). That's a very small slice, I do not believe they produce that kind of revenue for the federal government. The Iraq and Afganistan wars combined have cost us around one trillion, there's no arguing that. Health subsidies however will drag on forever, costing far more than pretty much every war we have ever fought. Not that that's a bad thing, but at least we should be doing fair comparisons.