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Town hall style shouting will get you nowhere.


and thats all you see on the media outlets and blogs you visit. all of which is carefully calculated. i visit the huffpost etc several times daily to see what you all read. and its so wonder why you have such thoughts. i forgot, liberals are decent and respectful protesters......please :floor::floor::floor:
 
respectfully, that was the most simple-minded response ive ever read. do you know of any nation, any company or any family for that matter that has it perfect. we're talking about our governments system founded by our founding fathers. is it the systems fault that your grandmother was deserted, or that she had to work over tubs of hot water? my grandfather had an incredibly difficult life, but he had it a heck of alot better than anyone in any other nation and he knew it. and it was that that made him fight for this nation. my god :bang:


Yes, it was the system's fault that, despite the fact that she could outwork most men and was as strong as a mule, she couldn't get a job in a factory where she might make a decent living. She had to do women's work, in a laundry, or be a motel maid, or a waitress.

My family spent three generations suffering because three generations of women chose a mate who turned out to be a deserter, because of a decision they made at 16 or 17. None of the deserters had it so bad. The women could never earn enough money to support themselves and the children, so each next generation dropped out of school at 15 and went to work.

Not until the 70's, when my mother was able to get a factory job where she made decent money, were we able to break the chain. My sister graduated high school, then I went to college.
 
do i really need to specify? Do you really not know the america of our grandparents versus the one we have inherited and one that we will be passing on? This is a joke, right? And no, i dont think itll be better if a repub were running things. This is way above party lines....

Yes you do, I am not trying to make light of your perspective. I would like to know at what point in history you feel the country should return and why you believe it was a better place.
 
great point!

but, im speaking of the system and the governments role in it. all nations have black marks, but this nations system has done more for its people than any other nation on earth and has done more for those around the world than any other nation on earth. it was this nation that looked at slavery for what it was and put a stop to it. i truly dont think that would happen in todays america.


Do you really believe we were the first nation to abolish slavery and we wouldn't do so today?:confused:
 
Yes, it was the system's fault that, despite the fact that she could outwork most men and was as strong as a mule, she couldn't get a job in a factory where she might make a decent living. She had to do women's work, in a laundry, or be a motel maid, or a waitress.

My family spent three generations suffering because three generations of women chose a mate who turned out to be a deserter, because of a decision they made at 16 or 17. None of the deserters had it so bad. The women could never earn enough money to support themselves and the children, so each next generation dropped out of school at 15 and went to work.

Not until the 70's, when my mother was able to get a factory job where she made decent money, were we able to break the chain. My sister graduated high school, then I went to college.



so, its the systems fault that three generations of women were deserted? and was it this nation that gave equal rights to women?

during that time, was there another country that was more equal to women-no. were there other countries that had less men deserting their women. please............

my grandmother didnt have such a problem. should she have?

im amazed how you could blame your nation for family problems. a victim mindset like that will always pass the buck onto others and will never have independant thinking
 
respectfully, that was the most simple-minded response ive ever read. do you know of any nation, any company or any family for that matter that has it perfect. we're talking about our governments system founded by our founding fathers. is it the systems fault that your grandmother was deserted, or that she had to work over tubs of hot water? my grandfather had an incredibly difficult life, but he had it a heck of alot better than anyone in any other nation and he knew it. and it was that that made him fight for this nation. my god :bang:

Respectfully, you don't know the meaning of the word or you wouldn't have slammed her response as simple minded, you dolt.
And you made her point as well, numnuts. Your grandFATHER had it bad but not so bad as say, grandMOTHERS. You really don't get it do you?

Me? I treat everyone with equal respect til they show they are not worthy of it as you have repeated done.
 
Do you really believe we were the first nation to abolish slavery and we wouldn't do so today?:confused:


abolish it in the way we did, yes absolutely. and no, its those who's ancestors that were slaves that are the biggest racists of the modern day. and now we have a media that labels everyone a racist because we may disagree with a black president. our nation has never been more divided and thats a simple fact.
 
Respectfully, you don't know the meaning of the word or you wouldn't have slammed her response as simple minded, you dolt.
And you made her point as well, numnuts. Your grandFATHER had it bad but not so bad as say, grandMOTHERS. You really don't get it do you?

Me? I treat everyone with equal respect til they show they are not worthy of it as you have repeated done.


my grandfather had it rough because he worked multiple jobs in shoe factories that have since closed to allow my grandmother to be a mother and for his four daughters to have a roof over their head. but, you didnt want to hear that part. its easier to play the gender and race card.

enjoy being a victim....:bang:
 
abolish it in the way we did, yes absolutely. and no, its those who's ancestors that were slaves that are the biggest racists of the modern day. and now we have a media that labels everyone a racist because we may disagree with a black president. our nation has never been more divided and thats a simple fact.

I have politely asked you twice for an answer to another question with no reply and a somewhat incomplete answer to a question in this post. I don't know if you are incapable of answering or just to lazy, either way it really doesn't matter. No one including you is required to answer any questions so I won't ask again.
 
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