Survey - Afghan surge support

[AlphaCrab]

The merits of a voluntary army are pretty well validated at this point.

Of course...saved, by the all volunteer army!

Not a legitimate answer, sorry. The patriotic "have nots" still do all the fighting, the "haves' will give them their reasons and our taxpayer money to continue the fight (false patriotism).

 

[kkddbb]

The standards have been lowered so much they will take just about anyone these days and no I can't enlist because I'm a disabled veteran, it's your turn to serve if you haven't done so already.

so because the standards were lowered that means what? when thats the only job one can get than why not?

and frankly i wished i had served while i was younger. my entire family on my mothers side did and i support them not just as family but financially to several groups like gary senise's org, etc. i feel its at least i can do. and course have their back when they are either politicized or smeared for political reasons. we all have the duty

 

[kkddbb]

Of course...saved, by the all volunteer army!

Not a legitimate answer, sorry. The patriotic "have nots" still do all the fighting, the "haves' will give them their reasons and our taxpayer money to continue the fight (false patriotism).

i will simply say......WOW!

 

[AlphaCrab]

i will simply say......WOW!

I am pretty good when I am on a roll....thx.

 

[scooterbug44]

I don't think we need to have a draft, but I do think we need to change how deployments etc. are handled. The toll that schedule takes on marriages and families is insane and very "un-american" IMO.

 

[Andy A]

Let me once more speak as an individual who has, in many senses, been there, done that, militarily.
If we are to remain in Afganistan we should give our military leaders everything they ask for or require to finish the mission. There is still no guarantee by a long shot that they will succeed due to the corruption and possible attitude of the Afgan people and government
If it is the decision of the President to not support Gen. McChystral pull every troop out immediately and let the chips fall where they may.
A comparison between Vietnam and Afganistan is ludicrous as the issues are not the same.
In Vietnam we were supporting those who requested our support and back us fully and in the end we left them in the lurch and millions died as a result but you never heard about it in the American press, our stalwart of truthful and correct information.
In Afganistan, we are not sure where the populace stands in regard to our being there. If they support us and the decision is made to continue the pursuit and elimination of Al Qaeda, then it should be done with everything that is requested by those doing the fighting, politics and politicians be damned.
It is time to either support our millitary or bring them ALL home, and I mean from all over the world.
There is nothing so exasperating or fruitless as being in an armed conflict you know your government is not trying to win. That was Vietnam.
In summation, either support the troops fully or allow them to return to their loved ones.

 

[30ashopper]

Let me once more speak as an individual who has, in many senses, been there, done that, militarily.
If we are to remain in Afganistan we should give our military leaders everything they ask for or require to finish the mission. There is still no guarantee by a long shot that they will succeed due to the corruption and possible attitude of the Afgan people and government
If it is the decision of the President to not support Gen. McChystral pull every troop out immediately and let the chips fall where they may.
A comparison between Vietnam and Afganistan is ludicrous as the issues are not the same.
In Vietnam we were supporting those who requested our support and back us fully and in the end we left them in the lurch and millions died as a result but you never heard about it in the American press, our stalwart of truthful and correct information.
In Afganistan, we are not sure where the populace stands in regard to our being there. If they support us and the decision is made to continue the pursuit and elimination of Al Qaeda, then it should be done with everything that is requested by those doing the fighting, politics and politicians be damned.

A certain percentage of the country wanted us there way back into the 90's, not sure how they feel about it now. Oddly enough I've not heard any reporting on the subject.

It is time to either support our millitary or bring them ALL home, and I mean from all over the world.
There is nothing so exasperating or fruitless as being in an armed conflict you know your government is not trying to win. That was Vietnam.
In summation, either support the troops fully or allow them to return to their loved ones.

Alas, with some democrats, it's not about winning or losing wars, it's about winning or losing political capital -

?I think a big part of it is, the vice president?s reading of the Democratic Party is this is not sustainable,? said Bruce O. Riedel, who led the administration?s review this year. ?That?s a part of the process that?s a legitimate question for a president ? if I do this, can I sustain it with political support at home? That was the argument the vice president was making back in the winter.?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/world/14biden.html

 

[Bob]

Let me once more speak as an individual who has, in many senses, been there, done that, militarily.
If we are to remain in Afganistan we should give our military leaders everything they ask for or require to finish the mission. There is still no guarantee by a long shot that they will succeed due to the corruption and possible attitude of the Afgan people and government
If it is the decision of the President to not support Gen. McChystral pull every troop out immediately and let the chips fall where they may.
A comparison between Vietnam and Afganistan is ludicrous as the issues are not the same.
In Vietnam we were supporting those who requested our support and back us fully and in the end we left them in the lurch and millions died as a result but you never heard about it in the American press, our stalwart of truthful and correct information.
In Afganistan, we are not sure where the populace stands in regard to our being there. If they support us and the decision is made to continue the pursuit and elimination of Al Qaeda, then it should be done with everything that is requested by those doing the fighting, politics and politicians be damned.
It is time to either support our millitary or bring them ALL home, and I mean from all over the world.
There is nothing so exasperating or fruitless as being in an armed conflict you know your government is not trying to win. That was Vietnam.
In summation, either support the troops fully or allow them to return to their loved ones.

win what? same as in vietnam. what mission? we interjected ourselves into vietnam as the french did. we had no business there. the only reason we have to be in afghanistan is to eradicate al qaeda, not try to impose democracy. this has nothing to do with supporting troops. it's not even a ground war in the traditional sense. we are trying to occupy and prop up a corrupt regime just as we did in vietnam. it's as stupid a policy as what we did in iraq. we never lost a battle in vietnam, but what did we accomplish? why do we bully other nations and invade? imagine russia or china interjecting their military into the western hemisphere. we would call them evil aggressors.

 

[rheffron]

A couple thoughts:

The President is The Commander-in-Chief (see Truman/Macarthur) and let's hope like hell he makes a thoughtful decision either way.

 

[kkddbb]

win what? same as in vietnam. what mission? we interjected ourselves into vietnam as the french did. we had no business there. the only reason we have to be in afghanistan is to eradicate al qaeda, not try to impose democracy. this has nothing to do with supporting troops. it's not even a ground war in the traditional sense. we are trying to occupy and prop up a corrupt regime just as we did in vietnam. it's as stupid a policy as what we did in iraq. we never lost a battle in vietnam, but what did we accomplish? why do we bully other nations and invade? imagine russia or china interjecting their military into the western hemisphere. we would call them evil aggressors.

is it the liberal way to compare apples to oranges? do yourself a favor, watch even the simpliest documentary about the taliban for example. and no i dont mean one made by moore or anyone else acting like a documentarian.

and by the way, it was the liberal wing of the dem party that brought about retreat, surrender and the mass killing when we left vietnam thus not accomplishing anything. if we let our military do their job, it would have no doubt been a different ending rather than a stain on american history.