Obama a Partisan President

[Andy A]

Let me assure you that the US governments financial track record makes them look like money watching hawks compared to SallieMae.

I admittedly know nothing about SallieMae and the above multi quote was in error. (I don't know how I did it.). I went back to school on the GI bill and was very thankful for it and what it did for me, personally. In some circles, I am now considered as smart as many of those of a Liberal persuasion.

 

[Arkiehawg]

I admittedly know nothing about SallieMae and the above multi quote was in error. (I don't know how I did it.). I went back to school on the GI bill and was very thankful for it and what it did for me, personally. In some circles, I am now considered as smart as many of those of a Liberal persuasion.

So does going back to school and having it paid for by the government make you a Socialist?


hmmmmmm:scratch:

 

[Andy A]

So does going back to school and having it paid for by the government make you a Socialist?


hmmmmmm:scratch:

No, but taking over the auto industry, healthcare, banks and lord knows what else, does.

 

[scooterbug44]

So does going back to school and having it paid for by the government make you a Socialist?


hmmmmmm:scratch:

You forgot the free government health care for life!

(I think vets deserve it, just saying. )

 

[Andy A]

You forgot the free government health care for life!

(I think vets deserve it, just saying. )

I didn't forget it, Ijust ignored it. There are some things we were promised on enlistment that were not given to us when we retired but we earned. Now, we have them and I thank you, Bud Day. Because of him and some wonderful doctors, my wife is still alive and very much involved in life.

 

[Arkiehawg]

I didn't forget it, Ijust ignored it. There are some things we were promised on enlistment that were not given to us when we retired but we earned. Now, we have them and I thank you, Bud Day. Because of him and some wonderful doctors, my wife is still alive and very much involved in life.

So Mr. Andy.....if I understand you correctly, you are comfortable with receiving Socialized medicine for free and that you are willing to state that the Socialized medicine that your family received was excellent!

hmm.........:scratch:;-)

 

[Andy A]

So Mr. Andy.....if I understand you correctly, you are comfortable with receiving Socialized medicine for free and that you are willing to state that the Socialized medicine that your family received was excellent!

hmm.........:scratch:;-)

Get one thing straight, Arkiehawg. I don't like your attempt to spin what we both know is not true. You are being a total rump in your efforts. It is medicine provided by private physicians and organizations but paid for with federal funds, yes. You have never, I'll bet, lived under a pure socialized medicine system. I have. My second son was born under one. He and I still suffer from mis-care. I go on personal experience first, information second because I find a lot of it to be inaccurate or purposely misleading. Your posts often fall into the latter category. Again, I reiterate, it is a promise made to us when we enlisted but until a few years ago ignored. What don't you understand about that? Good day, SIR!:angry:

 

[Arkiehawg]

Get one thing straight, Arkiehawg. I don't like your attempt to spin what we both know is not true. You are being a total rump in your efforts. It is medicine provided by private physicians and organizations but paid for with federal funds, yes. You have never, I'll bet, lived under a pure socialized medicine system. I have. My second son was born under one. He and I still suffer from mis-care. I go on personal experience first, information second because I find a lot of it to be inaccurate or purposely misleading. Your posts often fall into the latter category. Again, I reiterate, it is a promise made to us when we enlisted but until a few years ago ignored. What don't you understand about that? Good day, SIR!:angry:

Lighten up Soldier.....hence the wink ;-)

I'm not stating at all that you don't deserve the medical benefits from serving. In fact, I strongly believe that the military retirees deserve even more benefits than they get. For that matter, I believe active military deserve far better pay than they currently are receiving.

My point has nothing to do with Socialized medicine. But, in fact government issued medicine is being stated by some as socialized. It has also been stated by many, that government medicine would be of less quality than privatized medicine.

I say BS to both aspects. Government medicine has been received by military and federal employees for years. That doesn't make it socialized. Expanding government medical care to those who can't afford it or at a reasonable cost isn't any more socialized than what has been distributed for decades through M-Care and State M-Caid.

VAMC medical care (government) has improved dramatically over the past couple of decades. In fact, the best CHI care available today is through the VAMC.

With regards to your comment that you were promised the care. Then rightfully so, you should receive it. I'm glad that you are.
Stating that, there are many, many retired civilians that were promised adequate healthcare when they retired and they don't receive it.....

They also deserve to receive what was promised.....

 

[Andy A]

Lighten up Soldier.....hence the wink ;-)

I'm not stating at all that you don't deserve the medical benefits from serving. In fact, I strongly believe that the military retirees deserve even more benefits than they get. For that matter, I believe active military deserve far better pay than they currently are receiving.

My point has nothing to do with Socialized medicine. But, in fact government issued medicine is being stated by some as socialized. It has also been stated by many, that government medicine would be of less quality than privatized medicine.

I say BS to both aspects. Government medicine has been received by military and federal employees for years. That doesn't make it socialized. Expanding government medical care to those who can't afford it or at a reasonable cost isn't any more socialized than what has been distributed for decades through M-Care and State M-Caid.

VAMC medical care (government) has improved dramatically over the past couple of decades. In fact, the best CHI care available today is through the VAMC.

With regards to your comment that you were promised the care. Then rightfully so, you should receive it. I'm glad that you are.
Stating that, there are many, many retired civilians that were promised adequate healthcare when they retired and they don't receive it.....

They also deserve to receive what was promised.....

Sorry, I didn't see the wink. I was just angry about the fact that you were indicating we were receiving something we didn't deserve. Obviously, I was wrong. I apologize.

 

[Arkiehawg]

Sorry, I didn't see the wink. I was just angry about the fact that you were indicating we were receiving something we didn't deserve. Obviously, I was wrong. I apologize.

Nothing to apologize for.....perhaps from me for getting an old fart's blood pressure up....

Been around former Army Aviators for almost Two decades now. I do know that they can be a tad high strung.....


Semper Gumby......