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"this is the way many see it.

too bad they don't realize that the situation is as it is because we made it as it is. not the person who came here risking everything in order to find a better life - illegally or otherwise. we opened our arms and gave them jobs with low pay. we looked the other way. we let them come but we didn't consider all the potential problems of allowing an illegal group to grow as huge as it has. we certainly were not concerned with their rights once they got here and apparently some people are just opening their eyes and are suddenly shocked and horrified by how these people entered our country illegally! as if it suddenly happened last year."

I got a good laugh by your suggestion that the illegals risked so much coming to the US. What a joke. They benefit all the way around. Better pay, free healthcare, most charitable nation in the World. The US is the only Country I'm aware of where people become full time beggars because it pays better than most jobs.

Americans expect the Federal Gov't to do their job and protect the borders. The Feds got lazy so we elect someone who will fix the problem. Amnesty can't be an option unless the border is absolutely secure. that will be many years from now.

I didn't hire these folks and I want them gone so Americans can get their jobs back. If I have to pay more for my services so be it, but I want American workers in America.
 
"this is the way many see it.

too bad they don't realize that the situation is as it is because we made it as it is. not the person who came here risking everything in order to find a better life - illegally or otherwise. we opened our arms and gave them jobs with low pay. we looked the other way. we let them come but we didn't consider all the potential problems of allowing an illegal group to grow as huge as it has. we certainly were not concerned with their rights once they got here and apparently some people are just opening their eyes and are suddenly shocked and horrified by how these people entered our country illegally! as if it suddenly happened last year."

I got a good laugh by your suggestion that the illegals risked so much coming to the US. What a joke. They benefit all the way around. Better pay, free healthcare, most charitable nation in the World. The US is the only Country I'm aware of where people become full time beggars because it pays better than most jobs.

Americans expect the Federal Gov't to do their job and protect the borders. The Feds got lazy so we elect someone who will fix the problem. Amnesty can't be an option unless the border is absolutely secure. that will be many years from now.

I didn't hire these folks and I want them gone so Americans can get their jobs back. If I have to pay more for my services so be it, but I want American workers in America.


Then you might want to direct your anger and bitterness at the companies and businesses that hired them to work in the first place.;-) Maybe when lazy Americans get off their fat asses and break a sweat, we won't need an immigrant workforce. There are plenty of American citizens who have found it is much more profitable to be on the dole, and plenty of businesses who have found people willing to work for an honest day's wage.
 
"this is the way many see it.

too bad they don't realize that the situation is as it is because we made it as it is. not the person who came here risking everything in order to find a better life - illegally or otherwise. we opened our arms and gave them jobs with low pay. we looked the other way. we let them come but we didn't consider all the potential problems of allowing an illegal group to grow as huge as it has. we certainly were not concerned with their rights once they got here and apparently some people are just opening their eyes and are suddenly shocked and horrified by how these people entered our country illegally! as if it suddenly happened last year."

I got a good laugh by your suggestion that the illegals risked so much coming to the US. What a joke. They benefit all the way around. Better pay, free healthcare, most charitable nation in the World. The US is the only Country I'm aware of where people become full time beggars because it pays better than most jobs.

Americans expect the Federal Gov't to do their job and protect the borders. The Feds got lazy so we elect someone who will fix the problem. Amnesty can't be an option unless the border is absolutely secure. that will be many years from now.

I didn't hire these folks and I want them gone so Americans can get their jobs back. If I have to pay more for my services so be it, but I want American workers in America.

glad you got a good laugh about people who have the kind of courage and desperation we will never know or face. A good laugh is what we all need now and then! Do you know immigrant families? I do. They are truly hard working and bring some incredibly rich culture and traditions - they have already bonded with communities over the years. they have worked hard for what little they have. now you are going to tell them to go home? why? is the economy just not good enough for you to allow them to stay, after all these years? are they really standing in the way of your dreams? I think not.

as far as I know, illegals have worked jobs that Americans have given them. period. Americans have hired who they hire - illegal or not. Americans also have no problem whatsoever with sending a huge percentage of jobs overseas. once again I repeat - these issue are of our own making, these are choices based entirely on profit. these are choices YOU have made. and I understand the frustrations of citizens at this point... its called consequences. :roll:
 
this is the way many see it.

too bad they don't realize that the situation is as it is because we made it as it is. not the person who came here risking everything in order to find a better life - illegally or otherwise. we opened our arms and gave them jobs with low pay. we looked the other way. we let them come but we didn't consider all the potential problems of allowing an illegal group to grow as huge as it has. we certainly were not concerned with their rights once they got here and apparently some people are just opening their eyes and are suddenly shocked and horrified by how these people entered our country illegally! as if it suddenly happened last year.

Well I wouldn't agree with this actually. Immigration reform has been a central issue for decades. Remember Reagan's Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986?

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



We've been trying to solve the problem for a long time. It's in the fore front today due to the risks in having a porous southern border. That's something we shoudl definitely address, for national security.
 
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Yes,

I want them to go back to their Country not stay illegally in mine. I think it's great you have gotten close with illegals. A good friend would encourage them to do the right thing, not try and cover for them.

The fact is they broke our laws and should not be here. Once the border is secure they should be rounded up, if they don't voluntarily leave. There should be nothing pretty about it.
 
"illegal immigrants - its a really bad way to desribe a huge segment of people who live here. they are at your mercy as to whether they are entitled to the rights given to everyone else alive on American soil."

Illegals Aliens are not entitled to any American rights. They had to sneak into our Country in the first place, knowlingly subverting our laws to better themselves, not our Country. Make no mistake about it illegals have taken jobs away from other Americans. The notion that Americans didn't want them is tainted. Americans want the job for the right wage. Illegals taking the jobs for less than minimum wage has prevented minimum wage laws from effectively working.
the soil the mexicans are migrating to was once mexico before we took it away. how fitting! all americans of european descent are illegals in that our forefathers came and took what rightfully belonged to native americans. this thread smells of intestinal gas.
 
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Well I wouldn't agree with this actually. Immigration reform has been a central issue for decades. Remember Reagan's Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986?

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



We've been trying to solve the problem for a long time. It's in the fore front today due to the risks in having a porous southern border. That's something we shoudl definitely address, for national security.

of course its not a new problem or issue in america. and of course the border issues require attention. absolutely! my point was that folks are so enraged by "illegal immigrants" that it seems as if they think it is just now a big problem and that all these people came illegally and took their jobs. what I should have said is that many legal citizens have no idea about immigration - they just don't want anyone doing it unless its legal (if then). they just do not know the facts. they look at the whole thing as if its a black and white issue. it is far more complex than that.
 
Yes,

I want them to go back to their Country not stay illegally in mine. I think it's great you have gotten close with illegals. A good friend would encourage them to do the right thing, not try and cover for them.

The fact is they broke our laws and should not be here. Once the border is secure they should be rounded up, if they don't voluntarily leave. There should be nothing pretty about it.

:blink:
 
Yes,

I want them to go back to their Country not stay illegally in mine. I think it's great you have gotten close with illegals. A good friend would encourage them to do the right thing, not try and cover for them.

The fact is they broke our laws and should not be here. Once the border is secure they should be rounded up, if they don't voluntarily leave. There should be nothing pretty about it.


An alternative is to relax the immigration laws, that is decriminalize that which is currently illegal. My approach is possible, your's is not, end of story.
 
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