Obama Reloaded

[Bob]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/11/02/tom-rogan-matrix-obama-denialability/3328643/ Whether in business or government, leadership is about more than positive intentions -- it's about managing the consequences of choices.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

I think I'm with Bill Maher on ACA and so many other things. He's not afraid to admit reality but is willing to move on. I'm a little surprised that Neil Degrasse Tyson couldn't take a more humanistic view of the situation. I realize he's a scientist, but apparently not a behavioral scientist.

 

[Bob]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101164911 The new plan would be $759 a month with a family deducitble of $12,700 and an individual of $6,000. All in, the cost is $21,724. So YES, I can keep my insurance, but it will cost me $9000 more! I can get it down to about $18,500 by sacrificing the doctor network, but still $6,500 more than I pay now. In that case, it would be taking less quality insurance for 50 percent more.

So Mr. President, the line should have been, "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance, you just have to pay a lot more for it."

 

[Bob]

I think I'm with Bill Maher on ACA and so many other things. He's not afraid to admit reality but is willing to move on. I'm a little surprised that Neil Degrasse Tyson couldn't take a more humanistic view of the situation. I realize he's a scientist, but apparently not a behavioral scientist.

all panelists rationalizing crushing middle class and the young...Mahrer "I think he lied".

 

[Bob]

Robinhood plan that takes from the middle class to give to the poor

 

[30a Saluki]

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/11/04/obamas-catastrophic-victory/

I strongly suspect the answer to Ms. Noonan's final question would be "no". (If someone other than the Liar-In-Chief were answering it for him).

 

[Bob]

The utter lack of executive focus on the economy and the ramrod nature of the making of this law portends a 2 class society with insurers profiteering and corporations throwing their employees overboard en masse to the exchanges that are grossly overpriced. This law, if unaltered will die of it's own flaws.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

I can't complain about the good things the economy has done for me, so I'm not with you on that one.

 

[Bob]

I can't complain about the good things the economy has done for me, so I'm not with you on that one.

Our experiences are most likely different. There are clear winners and losers with this law. The law has mandated insurers and uninsured as the winners. If you are ever in a situation where employer provided insurance is kicked to the curb, you may see it differently. I believe this law will devolve into something else, as it will likely be the '14 elections fulcrum.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

Our experiences are most likely different. There are clear winners and losers with this law. The law has mandated insurers and uninsured as the winners. If you are ever in a situation where employer provided insurance is kicked to the curb, you may see it differently. I believe this law will devolve into something else, as it will likely be the '14 elections fulcrum.

I'm sure i would see it differently. I just wanted to share the fact that the last 5 years have not been all that bad for everyone. Economically speaking if it weren't for sequestration, we'd be doing even better.

I read on Huff Post that the Republicans of all people are working to try to change the law to relax thae standards of eligible insurance policies. I thought they just wanted to repeal the law.