Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

[SUP View]

In my opinion it is way too early to make a call on what impact a lack of customary beach use would have on our local economy.

Without customary use in place, the possibility of corporate growth and an increase in population should be diminished to a degree. Quite the opposite if customary use was the law of the land.

 

[Dave Rauschkolb]

The credibility of customary use leaders was seriously damaged when they allowed their "followers" to believe that people couldn't walk all 26 miles of beach in Walton County, that there was nowhere to go to the beach where people wouldn't be chased off, that all the beaches were public before HB631 (subsequently law), that BPOs don't own the beach seaward of their homes if they have a deed that says they do, that quiet title is some surreptitious legal maneuver to steal public beach, that our tourists would flee the area, that our home prices would be devastated, that our economy would fail, and that all BPOs are rich, selfish, entitled people who wanted to exclude everyone from their beach. What a pack of misinformation!

The funny thing is that not one single bit of misinformation had to be put out to the public. Almost everyone loves the beach and would like to use it at some point or another, some more than others. Most BPOs (not all) would probably have shared with respectful people if only the right to exclude certain people or things on their property had not been under attack. Would YOU want Walton County making rules for part of your property that guaranteed the entire public could use it? Would YOU want to count on Walton County to enforce much of anything on your property short of a crime? Would You want to be required to allow someone on your property who was disrespectful to YOU, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR PROPERTY, or others who happened to be respectfully enjoying part of your property with your implied consent because they were respectful?

Extremists do none of us any favors. So much damage has been done to relationships at this point in our local community. Let's hope that most visitors are finding the misinformation to be just that.

 

[FactorFiction]

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No sir, I'm not calling people who want to go to the beach extremists, I'm calling people who go to extremes (including exaggerating, embellishing, instigating, manipulating, misleading, and other forms of misinformation) extremists. If the shoe fits, feel free to wear it.

 

[Stone Cold J]

From Dave’s Post #52 “We extremely love our right to use every grain of sand from the dune line to the water line”

Dave:

What year did the “right to use every grain of sand from the dune line to the water line” become law? Does that “right” extend to the property in the State of Florida (including State Parks and Military Property) or Just the Private Property between the dune line and water line in Walton County?

What year did Forced Occupation of Private Property with unlimited people and unlimited equipment against the will of the property owner become legal in Walton County?'

Do you own deeded property between the dune line to the water line and are you forced to allow unlimited people with unlimited equipment on your private property against your will?

What public property became private property because of HB 631?

Do you think there will be no lawsuits if the BCC tries to steal property (removal of property rights) without due process?

 

[bob bob]

From Dave’s Post #52 “We extremely love our right to use every grain of sand from the dune line to the water line”

Dave:

What year did the “right to use every grain of sand from the dune line to the water line” become law? Does that “right” extend to the property in the State of Florida (including State Parks and Military Property) or Just the Private Property between the dune line and water line in Walton County?

What year did Forced Occupation of Private Property with unlimited people and unlimited equipment against the will of the property owner become legal in Walton County?'

Do you own deeded property between the dune line to the water line and are you forced to allow unlimited people with unlimited equipment on your private property against your will?

What public property became private property because of HB 631?

Do you think there will be no lawsuits if the BCC tries to steal property (removal of property rights) without due process?

Forced, stealing, owning, lawsuits, oh my ... let's all enjoy our beautiful beaches today, including you my friendly drama queen.

 

[Stone Cold J]

No sir, I'm not calling people who want to go to the beach extremists, I'm calling people who go to extremes (including exaggerating, embellishing, instigating, manipulating, misleading, and other forms of misinformation) extremists. If the shoe fits, feel free to wear it.

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You mean like the following?:

1. No taxes are paid on beach front properties

2. Public Property became Private Property due to HB 631

3. Quiet Title made Public Beach Property Private Property

4. Walton County Residents have had unlimited use of Private Property from the dune line to the water line against the will of the Private Property Owner for the last 100 years

5. Since Sherriff Atkinson announced he would not arrest trespassers, that makes it legal to trespass on Private Property in Walton County

6. Repealing HB 631 will eliminate every CU lawsuit, or the requirement for the BCC to use Due Process to take full and immediate control over Private Property in Walton County against the will of the Property Owner.

7. It is badgering to ask questions supported by CU advocates that are contradictory to Florida law or information posted on the Walton County web site

8. If CU does not pass then Residents and Tourists will not be allowed to walk the 26 miles of beach in Walton County, nor will they be allowed to swim, fish, surf, or build sand castles.

9. The beach crowding problem is caused by greedy beachfront homeowners and not the successful promotional efforts to increase tourists from 1 million per year to 4 million per years in the last decade

10. And extra bonus statement, asking questions or pointing out CU myths make a person a "drama queen"

 

[bob1]

10. And extra bonus statement, asking questions or pointing out CU myths make a person a "drama queen"

 

[Charles Evans]

Interesting article in yesterday’s WSJ. Reaffirms the ability of governmental agencies to use eminent domain under the “taking clause” under the constitution as long as “just compensation” is paid.

Opinion | We’re From the Government and We’re Here to Build a Bike Path

 

[SUP View]

Interesting article in yesterday’s WSJ. Reaffirms the ability of governmental agencies to use eminent domain under the “taking clause” under the constitution as long as “just compensation” is paid.

Opinion | We’re From the Government and We’re Here to Build a Bike Path

Interesting read and thanks for the link.

It will be good to get the legal opinion of this in regard to general use of the beach and not a specific need.

 

[Charles Evans]

HB 6063 is dead, no repeal.