30-a beach looks like tent city

[scooterbug44]

I didn't think code enforcement did any structural/electrical inspections - thought that was the building department?

The reason I ask is that we are proposing to pay someone $50K a year to be a "beach ambassador" - a rather cushy job of handing out pamphlets and riding about on an ATV.

 

[Interested Girl]

I didn't think code enforcement did any structural/electrical inspections - thought that was the building department?

The reason I ask is that we are proposing to pay someone $50K a year to be a "beach ambassador" - a rather cushy job of handing out pamphlets and riding about on an ATV.

TDC employee's are to be the ambassadors and will tag items. Code enforcement will pick up the "abandoned items".

SB you are right we have building inspectors with the building dept that make those inspections not CE.

 

[Mango]

Is there anywhere else in the world that this behavior is tolerated?

No where and I have been to beaches all over the Country. Never saw these tents before in my life prior to Sowal.

we spent a day in wrightsville beach/wilmington NC a few weekends ago. i took some photos of the beach, i saw 2 tents. that's it. i thought, if this were sowal, this beach would be covered in tents. i'll post photos.
i also spent a day in nags head, NC a couple of weekends ago and i did not see a single tent. not one.

Thank you.

We vacation oceanfront every summer at the Jersey Shore on a barrier Island called Long Beach Island. People own the dunes, but no structures are allowed onto the beach, like stairs; they fine for large holes because they are unsafe (yes, lifeguards will give a warning), and everything is off the beach at night. I can't tell you how nice it is to sit at sundown and watch the sunset and be able to see the coast from North to South without tentominiums; how nice it is to walk on the beach in the morning without crap all over it. We pay bed tax as well, but maybe when they start charging to be at the beach, like LBI does to maintain the beaches, they will take notice when it hits their pocketbooks. Why should we pay more in real estate taxes for enforcement? What about the people who have second homes or primary residents who are respectful of the beach? The people who rent and make their best efforts from afar to educate? That ires me to no end if they add a RE tax surcharge. :angry:

 

[GoodWitch58]

No where and I have been to beaches all over the Country. Never saw these tents before in my life prior to Sowal.

Thank you.

We vacation oceanfront every summer at the Jersey Shore on a barrier Island called Long Beach Island. People own the dunes, but no structures are allowed onto the beach, like stairs; they fine for large holes because they are unsafe (yes, lifeguards will give a warning), and everything is off the beach at night. I can't tell you how nice it is to sit at sundown and watch the sunset and be able to see the coast from North to South without tentominiums; how nice it is to walk on the beach in the morning without crap all over it. We pay bed tax as well, but maybe when they start charging to be at the beach, like LBI does to maintain the beaches, they will take notice when it hits their pocketbooks. Why should we pay more in real estate taxes for enforcement? What about the people who have second homes or primary residents who are respectful of the beach? The people who rent and make their best efforts from afar to educate? That ires me to no end if they add a RE tax surcharge. :angry:

This also brings up once again, the question I keep asking: why is Walton County re-inventing the wheel? There are communities all over the world...and especially in Florida with our miles and miles of coastline...that have worked out these problems, just as they have worked out recycling, and a host of other things...why can't the Walton County leadership model our situations after ones that have been in place for a long time?

I simply can not believe we are that different so that we have to start and re-start plans for solutions to these issues. It is frustrating!

 

[Here4Good]

This also brings up once again, the question I keep asking: why is Walton County re-inventing the wheel? There are communities all over the world...and especially in Florida with our miles and miles of coastline...that have worked out these problems, just as they have worked out recycling, and a host of other things...why can't the Walton County leadership model our situations after ones that have been in place for a long time?

I simply can not believe we are that different so that we have to start and re-start plans for solutions to these issues. It is frustrating!

Because we don't have a county attorney, because the commissioners don't want someone telling them that catering to the whim of every property owner who votes/makes a campaign contribution is not legal, and so they react to every situation instead of actually planning and being proactive?

 

[snookerpie]

No where and I have been to beaches all over the Country. Never saw these tents before in my life prior to Sowal.

Thank you.

We vacation oceanfront every summer at the Jersey Shore on a barrier Island called Long Beach Island. People own the dunes, but no structures are allowed onto the beach, like stairs; they fine for large holes because they are unsafe (yes, lifeguards will give a warning), and everything is off the beach at night. I can't tell you how nice it is to sit at sundown and watch the sunset and be able to see the coast from North to South without tentominiums; how nice it is to walk on the beach in the morning without crap all over it. We pay bed tax as well, but maybe when they start charging to be at the beach, like LBI does to maintain the beaches, they will take notice when it hits their pocketbooks. Why should we pay more in real estate taxes for enforcement? What about the people who have second homes or primary residents who are respectful of the beach? The people who rent and make their best efforts from afar to educate? That ires me to no end if they add a RE tax surcharge. :angry:

the revenue from the required beach badges also go towards paying lifeguards and beach cleanup. Even owners/residents are required to present them on checks and you know they really do check!

 

[Mango]

the revenue from the required beach badges also go towards paying lifeguards and beach cleanup. Even owners/residents are required to present them on checks and you know they really do check!

Indeed they do check and diligently. I keep my badge on my beach bag so they can see it clearly and they don't wake me up. ;-)
The jobs are given to students who come back every year or summer there. They have a good time doing it, too. They get to walk the beach and socialize at the lifeguards stations in the evenings. They even have a lifeguard station where the guards are housed in the summer. I think the kids are offered incentives as well to collect revenue.

 

[GoodWitch58]

yes. and I remember distincting recommending that we use college students as Beach Ambassadors, much like other places; the example I used was the program New Orleans had with wonderful young people handing out discount tickets, giving directions, acting as a welcoming committee to the city., and educating tourists about the safety issues, the "rules" if you will; ...but, instead we are proposing some combination of $50K/yr code enforcers, TDC beach patrol, and a $12,000 vehicle!

I am sorry to be complaining, but really, people does this make sense? And if we are afraid of being sued; then hire an attorney and do the right thing the first time.

Rant Off.

 

[Miss Kitty]

Not bitter at all just old and tired of the continual onslaught and erosion of personal responsibility to be replace by poorly conceived and administered attempts to legislate behavior.

Mean spirited - - no just realistic concerning Barney, Goober and Gomer.

Hmmm...this statement is very telling. What about YOUR personal responsibility to be a good steward of the "beach you own"? Hasn't that eroded?

The Lord Giveth and Taketh Away - it is a natural process. I watch the process daily and was aware of the process when we decided to buy and build.

Maybe I misunderstood your reference to "eroded". My take was that you were referring to beach erosion and my personal responsibility to restore my property after those events. My "riddle" clearly represents the natural process that occurs along the coast line as wave actions react with the land. Those actions transform the contour of the shoreline daily.

I have no "artifical" barriers that attempt to stop or slow that process (seawall, geo tubes, etc). I accept the actions as natural and recurring.

I have a responsibility to be a good steward of the land as everyone does. I rate my performance heads and shoulders above those who daily utilize and abuse my backyard uninvited and make futile attempts to interfear with the natural order of nature.

FTLOC, IG. Please stay on track here. Where did I refer to artificial barriers or beach erosion????? :roll:

You spoke of the erosion of personal responsibility. I asked about YOUR personal responsibility to be a good steward of the beach you "own". IMO, if you are leaving a volleyball net up or leaving other items everyday, that interferes with being a good steward of the beach. I would most definitely expect someone who "owns" the beach to be a better steward than a visitor.

 

[Interested Girl]

I have no volleyball net on my property - just 2 adirondak chairs and in my opinion that is responsible ownership. Your opinion may differ and that is your right.

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