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Alan Grayson, the liberals' problem child

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your going to compare wilsons idiotic statement to grayson, seriously? fact is, the president was in fact lying. shouting him down was dumb and disrespectful, but he wasnt lying. thats now a historically fact so its a non-issue. perhaps if it was code pink shouting it would be ok?

i am a small biz owner and i assure you you have a gross misunderstanding on this health reform bill. if you think for a second that this plan is going to provide better care, cheaper coverage and will insure everyone you got another thing coming. tax breaks and incentives would drive the costs down overnight and thats a certainty. if i was able to purchase insurance over state lines the costs would drop overnight and that too is a certainty. none of which are in this bill. you wouldnt believe what i pay to provide full coverage to all my employees, but i find a way to make it happen.

people have this notion that this bill is going to save us all and prevent people from dying, a complete theory and will soon become a reality. we need reform, but the real things to keep costs down are nowhere to be found in this bill thus far. perhaps the future will tell a different story.

and grayson is telling the truth by saying that these deaths are caused by republicans? how simple-minded of grayson and why would one take what he says seriously. i watched with my own eyes on the huffpost earlier him calling out the numbers of dead in republican districts. does that make friggin sense what so ever.

please folks, put ideology and emotions aside. we'll never get what we need otherwise.


Yes, I did compare them. Period.

I said reform, not this bill in general. Seriously.

Grayson, imo told the truth, that having no plan, that not working on any plan the last eight years, is allowing people to not have coverage and die. Seriously......
 
I think that if all the politicians had to try and get their own insurance like Aleo and I do, we'd see some progress FAST!

IMO a huge part of the disconnect in the discussion is that people who work for corporations, the government, etc. don't understand what the non-poverty level, employed, small business people are going through - they have it in their heads that it's a deadbeat/illegal issue.

I've spent most of my working career as an independent consultant. Finding good health insurance has never been a problem and it's never been overly expensive. What's the problem you're having? :idontno:
 
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I love this guy! Please, someone give him his own show. :floor:
 
I've spent most of my working career as an independent consultant. Finding good health insurance has never been a problem and it's never been overly expensive. What's the problem you're having? :idontno:

My problem would be the lack of options and the 15-25% premium increase year to year.

And I can actually get it - my friends are denied because of pre-existing conditions.
 
My problem would be the lack of options and the 15-25% premium increase year to year.

And I can actually get it - my friends are denied because of pre-existing conditions.


Why do you need government run insurance programs to solve that problem?
 
Why do you need government run insurance programs to solve that problem?

Because we are a greedy and selfish country who really need the government to help keep us in line--we don't need a real depression next time!

The more government control in these matters, the better!:angry:
 
Why do you need government run insurance programs to solve that problem?

I don't necessarily need a government run insurance program (besides the ones we already have) to solve that problem, but we do need some sort of government legislation to solve it.

Competition, oversight, price caps, and requiring they cover those w/ pre-existing conditions would go a long way.
 
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