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as if the multi-use paths weren't confusing enough...
- Thread starter Smiling JOe
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Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
Even if they are able to clock speeds, is it legal to bust people for speeding on the path if their bicycle isn't equipped with speedometers? Furthermore, shouldn't the cops be spending their time busting people for driving their autos 65 mph through traffic light intersections, like 98/283? More unenforceable laws is not the answer. I know power-walkers who can walk fairly close to that speed limit for bicycles.
scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
This is where common sense comes in - anyone with the power to write tickets should obviously know not to ticket someone in a WHEELCHAIR for using the sidewalk or path!
The po-po should be writing tickets (and making up all that lost revenue) by ticketing habitual offenders and focusing on the big safety issues, not nitpicking path usage and speeds.
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Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
Now you cannot go around having selective enforcement of the law. The laws need to be better written. Thank God, that this was only a draft of the new ordinance.
scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
Not issuing tickets for motorized wheelchairs on the path is not selective enforcement of the law, just like a ticket for parking in a handicapped parking space w/o a placard/plate isn't discrimination against able bodied people. :roll: A wheelchair is an assist device for someone w/ a documented medical reason for using it, not a vehicle or recreational device.
Path size is not the issue, behavior and lack of courtesy is! In most places on 30-A the path is as wide or wider than the multi-use path I grew on that was used by bikers (of all speeds and levels of spandex), walkers, runners, roller bladers etc.
This thread is a prime example of how we get such f'ed up laws and regulations - everyone wants wording and exemptions to benefit them and their priorities!
Path size is not the issue, behavior and lack of courtesy is! In most places on 30-A the path is as wide or wider than the multi-use path I grew on that was used by bikers (of all speeds and levels of spandex), walkers, runners, roller bladers etc.
This thread is a prime example of how we get such f'ed up laws and regulations - everyone wants wording and exemptions to benefit them and their priorities!
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Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
Egg-Zachery, and reason to allow them as exceptions, noted in the ordinance. It is probably illegal to make a local law which would contradict Federal ADA laws.
Matt J
SWGB
The Segway is not a medical device it is an option for people who don't want to walk a block. If start making exemptions for golf carts and Segways why not make an exemption to use it as a turning or passing lane?
Zebraspots
Beach Fanatic
Maybe if people actually WALKED to and from the beach instead of using golf carts or vehicles we wouldn't be such a nation of fatsos!
That is too funny...but actually scary true. I have had people try to run me off the road. I have had things thrown at me. I have had people scream at me at 5:30 in the morning coming down 83 yell at me to get off the road on 30-A. I have had on of my subconstractors try running me off the road. He was really surprised and apologetic when I confronted him that morning.
In general I would say that 90% of all cars that pass show agression or agitation towards me being on the road. I just assume every car on the road is going to try and hit me or throw something at me or yell at me. Thus, my expectations are set appropriately when it does happen and I don't let it bother me.
We were on a ride yesterday and had a friend crash on Hwy77. A car going the other way cheered that one of us had fallen and got hurt. Unfortunately this is the sentiment of many towards cyclists.
I ride early to be finished before the traffic starts and try to be respectful of cars. I ride fast and the mulit-use path is not an option. I know cyclists are nuisance to cars on 30a, but I wish people had a bit more patience and courtesy. The multi-use path is too dangerous, covered with sand and with too many blind intersections to ride safely. With the new 8mph speed limit it is even less of an option.
Please drive safe out there.
Will B
Moderator
Local laws never trump federal law.
I had a local cop up here in one of the small towns outside Marietta give me a ticket for my headlight modulators on my Goldwing. I carry a copy of the Federal statue allowing them for just such a purpose. The cop said, "Well, I don't like them" and gave me the ticket. Made sure I went to court with the Federal statue as well as the documentation for my modulator that shows they modulate and not flash the lights. The Judge apologized and threw it out. Yes, the cop was in the courtroom.
This applies to the path. Never apply laws subjectively, and you should never have any problems. If the law in question is stupid, then, at least it will be stupid for all rather than a few.
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