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Auction on two lots in WaterColor

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amazing aa absolute sits here and brags daily how cheap he can build houses and this and that . all i see is a builder trying to solicit business in cyber space.i don't see how you have time to build when you're on this board 24/7 talking trash. ok we know you can build cheaper than any builder alive. good for you but don't you think people are tired of hearing your smack?i'm sorry but your constant bragging how cheap you can build runs business off

Isn't this what I told you the other day when you asked me about building for you?

All of this said, you may want to look at Chris Clark, Brad Beauchamp, Doug Allen or Tony Martin. They have all built in JOE communities. I like the way their homes look and they might be priced well.

You seem to be pretty strange. I tried to help you with free information and asked nothing from you. What builder gives out the names of 4 competitors to someone considering hiring them?


I like Sowal.com I check it in the morning, sometimes at lunch and in the evening. We are living without TV and are getting our content from the web. Look for a steady stream of Posts from me in the future.
 
If he is, I don't want to be in or near that house when the tropical winds start a blowing! :blink:

You took that to far ScooterBug. I don't know what your problem is. Why don't you and your significant other call me 850-978-8233 and tell me about yourselves so you are not anonymous to me anymore?
 
AA's posts severely test my patience - I didn't want to get involved, but this is getting ridiculous.

Option 1 - There is a massive South Walton conspiracy and people who can't agree on anything from the flavor of restaurant entrees to rules for stray dogs have banded together to besmirch AA's good name because he builds quality homes for way less than anyone else and upsets the mafioso like price fixing in the local construction industry.

Option 2 - There's a reason why he's posting instead of building and so many people have carefully worded comments cautioning his prospective clients.


SJ said: I think you are off on your figures. I am not sure which phase the sale was in but the cheapest lot in WaterColor currently available is just under $500,000. Add another $50,000 for home plans, and you are left with only $225 per sq foot based on a 2,000 sf home. I have not seen the min sf for homes in Ph IV, but my guess from looking at the current homes being built there, is that they will be well over 2,000 sf. Again, this is the math for the cheapest lot in WaterColor. There are only a small handfull of lots in WC priced near this figure, so to say that people can easily build there for $500/sf may be stretching it.


I was trying to be clear rather than general about pricing, that's all.

I calculated and cut in four hips yesterday. I checked Sowal in the morning and in the evening. We have received 30 inquiries for work this month and have referred out several builders who look like they do nice projects. Those builders don't know that I refer them and I never ask anything of them.
 
lol i find it amazing we're in a real estate DEPRESSION( pending home sales for dec down a massive 4% today) and builders left and right going under and aa absolute is thriving. so the 1000's of stock people with 500k-$2 mil lots in south walton that at worth 20% of prices paid in 2005 call aa absolute so he can build for you and get you whole again. lol
 
lol i find it amazing we're in a real estate DEPRESSION( pending home sales for dec down a massive 4% today) and builders left and right going under and aa absolute is thriving. so the 1000's of stock people with 500k-$2 mil lots in south walton that at worth 20% of prices paid in 2005 call aa absolute so he can build for you and get you whole again. lol

Not sure what the big mystery is. Link is to another builder's website which shows pricing for building cottage plans. Don't know this builder or anything about him but nice presentation.

http://steveingramhomes.com/cottageplans.html
 
lol i find it amazing we're in a real estate DEPRESSION( pending home sales for dec down a massive 4% today) and builders left and right going under and aa absolute is thriving. so the 1000's of stock people with 500k-$2 mil lots in south walton that at worth 20% of prices paid in 2005 call aa absolute so he can build for you and get you whole again. lol

Were you just fooling around when you wrote me several times asking me for advice? I don't know what I did to you. I was just sharing my thoughts about the questions you asked me. That's real strange behavior.
 
Not sure what the big mystery is. Link is to another builder's website which shows pricing for building cottage plans. Don't know this builder or anything about him but nice presentation.

http://steveingramhomes.com/cottageplans.html

Those homes look good and the pricing suggests he is earning money even though they're priced under $120 per foot. Isn't this prima facie that the cost of materials is under $100 per foot?

Going forward, can we please all stipulate that unless someone out here proves differently the cost of materials only is at or about $100 per square foot? All across the country builders are building fully loaded homes for what the locals in Sowal will tell you is impossible or illegitimate. Go ask someone in Atlanta or Memphis or Dallas what kind of home they can get for $300 per square foot.
 
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Those homes look good and the pricing suggests he is earning money even though they're priced under $120 per foot. Isn't this prima facie that the cost of materials is under $100 per foot?

Going forward, can we please all stipulate that unless someone out here proves differently the cost of materials only is at or about $100 per square foot? All across the country builders are building fully loaded homes for what the locals in Sowal will tell you is impossible or illegitimate. Go ask someone in Atlanta or Memphis or Dallas what kind of home they can get for $300 per square foot in ANY development along 30A.

I'm with you on this one. In those cities and most others, $300 per square foot will get you the Taj Mahal with solid gold fixtures everywhere. It's ridiculous that builders think it's reasonable to charge in excess of $150 per square foot (prices should be below this figure even with huge allowances for trim, flooring, tile, appliances, lighting, plumbing fixtures, etc.)
 
I had this discussion several years ago with SoWal builders. They were quoting $250-300 PSF. I had just built a home in metro Atlanta for $130 PSF and asked each builder how such a difference could exist. No good answer. I never built a home in SoWal because I could not justify it to myself.

If you consider that Steve Ingram's largest home shown on the linked page is $110 PSF, what on Earth can one put into or add onto a home to get it to $300 PSF? :idontno:
 
I had this discussion several years ago with SoWal builders. They were quoting $250-300 PSF. I had just built a home in metro Atlanta for $130 PSF and asked each builder how such a difference could exist. No good answer. I never built a home in SoWal because I could not justify it to myself.

If you consider that Steve Ingram's largest home shown on the linked page is $110 PSF, what on Earth can one put into or add onto a home to get it to $300 PSF? :idontno:

Custom hurricane rated windows and doors. ;-)
 
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