Bikers - use the BIKE path!

[kathydwells]

One time I was driving in my car and some rude person in another CAR ran a stop sign and hit me. If they had been obeying the traffic rules that would not have happened.

Another time I was driving in my car and a rude person made a u turn right in front of me and I hit him. If he would have been obeying the traffic rules I would not have hit him.

Sound familiar

Yes.

 

[seacrestkristi]

All driveways on the south side of 30A should be required by the county to have a stop and L@@K for bikers signs. We've all seen how many people just pull right over it, easily forgetting about the bike path.
What 's me is when people use it as their personal parking space and just block the whole thing off not even caring about its use as a bike path. Then you have to ride in the road. :roll:

 

[Uncle Timmy]

That is right.

Is it not also correct that 98 has far fewer cross streets/intersections which is the primary source of potential accidents than the speed of the cars?

 

[Beemn]

Tim; from your posts it would seem that you are not a biker. It is far easier for you in a car to drive to 98 to get to your destination.I live off 30a, as i know you do. If I have a destination on or near 30a, I am not riding up to 98 to get there on my bicycle, just so the 30a flow is not interrupted! Further, the high speed and volume of traffic on 98 is absolutely nerve racking on a bicycle! As for flow on 30a, you know that bicycles are a very minor inconvenience compared to slow tourist traffic. I am NOT complaining about that...just saying! I ride the path and it is dangerous. There are no stats on accidents because most are not reported. Two friends have had collisions with cars on the path in the past month that I know of. In both cases it was cars crossing the path without looking! I'm saying chill. If you are in a hurry, turn north at any intersection and stomp down and consume fuel!

 

[Smiling JOe]

Is it not also correct that 98 has far fewer cross streets/intersections which is the primary source of potential accidents than the speed of the cars?

Timmy, Timmy, Timmy... We need to get you on a road bike on the multi-use path on 30A and see how you do. I wouldn't take the speed of the cars on 98 over the driveways crossing the multi-use path on 30A, and vice versa. IMO, death is more likely to occur from getting ran over on Hwy 98 by drivers traveling at high rates of speeds, than from bikers running into drivers who don't think to look and yield to foot, skate and bike traffic on the multi-use trails.

One other thing, there are signs posted in Seaside beside the sidewalk (multi-use trail) which note that no skates or bicycles allowed. As I mentioned before, that has to be confusing to a normal person who takes the time to read them, much less people who removed their thinking caps for the vacation.

In regards to requiring Stop and Look signs to be posted on every driveway which crosses 30A, most signs around here are ignored. I don't think that would help much. Also, one problem is that some driveways crossing 30A, do not have good visibility due to landscaping (or lack of appropriate landscaping) and the drivers have to stop on top of the multi-use path in order to see.

One last thing, it is still legal to ride a bicycle on the road.

 

[scooterbug44]

I thought the no skates/bikes signs in Seaside were only posted on the sidewalks off 30A - the ones around the amphiteatre, by the gelato shop, andin Ruskin Place. I ride my bike on the 30A sidewalk/path all the time.

We're talking about issues of courtesy and safety, and how we can best peacefully co-exist, not whether bikes or cars are better, which have the right of way etc.

It seems that the bikers think the cars should go out of their way to avoid them, watch out for them, and conform their driving habits to the bikers' speeds and routes, and that anyone who voices a dissenting opinion is anti-bike.

Drivers think it's the bikers fault, bikers think it's the driver's fault.........and both of them respecting each other and watching out for each other would solve the problem!

 

[Smiling JOe]

It seems that the bikers think the cars should go out of their way to avoid them, watch out for them, and conform their driving habits to the bikers' speeds and routes, and that anyone who voices a dissenting opinion is anti-bike.

...and both of them respecting each other and watching out for each other would solve the problem!

Where the heck do you come up with that thought? I don't ride my bicycle in the middle of the lane. I ride the white line as the road allows. I gladly share the road with motorists. It is the motorists who have been complaining about the road bikes being ridden in the road. They have been the ones telling us where to ride on the roads if we must. You can call it anti-bike, but I haven't said that. IMO, anti-bike people would say not to ride bicycles at all. 6th Gen has suggested that we shouldn't ride them for transportation, but his statements were about as close to being anti-bike as any I've read. Still, I don't think he is anti-bike. My post suggesting that if Timmy has a problem with the speed of bicyclers on 30A, maybe he needs to drive his car on hwy 98, was playing off of his previous post suggesting that road bikes get off of 30A and ride on hwy 98 with drivers who are traveling 75+mph.

Most of the last sentence in your last paragraph is very true. I have respect for auto drivers whether I'm on foot, bike or auto. I try my best to follow the rules of the road. I even do fairly well with following the laws regarding speed.

 

[yippie]

Hope this man doesn't come ride:

NWFlorida Daily News 6-7-07.

Bicyclist arrested for road rage
Jill Nolin

Tuesday June 5th, 2007

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A bicyclist was charged with aggravated assault and criminal mischief Saturday after he became enraged at a motorist whose vehicle was blocking a sidewalk access on Miracle Strip Parkway in Fort Walton Beach.

Edwin Mark Christenson, 50, who has no known address, was riding his bicycle in front of the Acura Dealership when he found the vehicle blocking his path, according to a Fort Walton Beach police report.

Christenson began to yell obscenities at the woman driver and then struck the hood of the vehicle, leaving a large dent, the report stated.

He then waved a pocket knife outside the passenger side window and continued to yell obscenities.

The vehicle was occupied by three females and an infant boy.

 

[greenroomsurfer]

O.K. this dead horse has been beaten to death. Stay out of the way while I'm on my Big Wheel and my Green Machine!!!!!! View attachment 5280

 

[Smiling JOe]

Edwin Mark Christenson, 50, who has no known address, was riding his bicycle in front of the Acura Dealership when he found the vehicle blocking his path, according to a Fort Walton Beach police report.

Sounds like the guy was riding his bicycle on the sidewalk. He should get a ticket for that.