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Chef Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution premieres tonight on ABC

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Susan, is this it?
https://www.choicelunch.com/home.aspx

And here's another
Farm to School program:
Putting the WOW in school lunches

You mentioned people citing their years of experience. One of the best admonitions I've ever heard regarding that is this: don't mistake 10 years' experience for one year of experience repeated 9 times. :biggrin:

Miss Critter,

Those look great and I'm happy to see them -- but it's not the company I have read about. I know what you mean about experience, but the kind of muggles who say that sort of thing aren't typically the sort who are openminded or self-confident enough to give serious consideration to new methods or ideas, let alone adopting them enthusiastically. When not only your rank and file (lunchroom workers) think like that, but also your leadership, it's even harder.

Not saying it can't be done, just saying it takes numbers of dedicated parents with skills for how to turn the course of a very large battleship about half a degree. Patience is also required, and often the changes one group of parents brings about will not take effect in time to benefit their own children. Agan, speaking from experience here.

There are other ways to make good things happen, like getting new laws enacted, and anyone who's got the connections and skills to require healthier fresh food in Florida schools by law, let me send you a check right now! I am only speaking from the experience of a woman who was a fulltime stay at home mom and small business owner, whose first efforts at change in schools were based on the erroneous belief that teachers, principals and school board members would jump at every chance to do something that was best for the kids.
 
sadly I think you are right, Susan.
 
You know it is sad when the world is giving us an intervention! I applaud what Jamie is doing, but I think people have to want to change before any thing can happen. I do not think this nation's obesity and processed food problem is necessarily an issue of being under educated on the subject. I think most people know that eating fast food most days of the week is bad for you, it's just that they don't care. Just like what singinchicken said about the parents in Britain sneaking their kids fast food through the school yard gates.
 
You know it is sad when the world is giving us an intervention! I applaud what Jamie is doing, but I think people have to want to change before any thing can happen. I do not think this nation's obesity and processed food problem is necessarily an issue of being under educated on the subject. I think most people know that eating fast food most days of the week is bad for you, it's just that they don't care. Just like what singinchicken said about the parents in Britain sneaking their kids fast food through the school yard gates.

You're right, Chels. For many it's just the path of least resistance. Until they become diabetic - or worse - and curse their "bad luck." The bottom line is that real food does require more effort than driving up to a window and unwrapping cr*p disguised as food.
 
I actually find "fast food" to be more of a hassle/ick than "real" food.

First I have to find something I will eat on their menus, then I have to go wait in line and get it (and check that it's right), then I feel poorly from the crap and grease and preservatives.

There are literally hundreds of healthy meals you can make from scratch/freezer items in less than 20 minutes including prep time.

Our "emergency/fast" meals were tacos (just have to brown meat & onions while you grate cheese and shred lettuce), omelet or scrambled eggs, pasta (boil some pasta while you chop/sautee some veggies and meat OR heat some homemade sauce), stir-fry (bag of mixed veggies combined w/ sauce and leftover meats over rice), or any of many different grilled meat items w/ a green salad or veggie side.

With the exception of the lettuce/spinach and the milk we drank, nothing truly required freshness, just the defrost button and seeing what was in the fridge/freezer.

And with kids helping cook, set the table, and doing the dishes it isn't a big burden on a working parent.
 
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