County sued for $3 Million+

[scooterbug44]

Many months ago (when it was first being proposed and we were discussing it on Sowal) I brought up the issue of this project and the height ordinance with one of the county commissioners. I was told that the project had so many problems and issues that it would never happen - it was such a mess that building height was the least of the developer's concerns.

The people currently suing for millions of our tax dollars are the only ones who thought the project was feasible - everyone else thought it was an ill conceived joke.

 

[AAbsolute]

Many months ago (when it was first being proposed and we were discussing it on Sowal) I brought up the issue of this project and the height ordinance with one of the county commissioners. I was told that the project had so many problems and issues that it would never happen - it was such a mess that building height was the least of the developer's concerns.

The people currently suing for millions of our tax dollars are the only ones who thought the project was feasible - everyone else thought it was an ill conceived joke.

I didn't know that.

That view corridor for the proposed building is one of the most valuable on the long vista of the bay. I lived on the bay down the vista from it on the South side. There was something real awe inspiring about the sunsets looking West South West. ShallowsNole can attest that if you get out off the shoreline of the North or South bay shore and view West you can get a 30 mile view and it's a little easier to believe in a Higher Power.

When proposed I was sure that they could get that building on there with concessions.

 

[waltonco lover]

In looking up rural village in the Comp. Plan and the Land development code, many districts in Walton County require a compatibility study done before you can go the Technical review board, but Rural Village does not. The report from Walton Co. staff submitted to the TRC for the Aug. 1st 2007 meeting states in writing no compatibility study required.

Maybe the compatibility study wasn't required because it is plain as day that the project isn't compatible?

 

[Smiling JOe]

ShallowsNole can attest that if you get out off the shoreline of the North or South bay shore and view West you can get a 30 mile view and it's a little easier to believe in a Higher Power.

Due to the curvature of the Earth, it is impossible to see a 30 mile view from that location, unless of course you build a high-rise.

 

[AAbsolute]

Due to the curvature of the Earth, it is impossible to see a 30 mile view from that location, unless of course you build a high-rise.

There's my point. The horizon occurs in a variety of ways. I like this one:

This can be determined in a number of ways but perhaps the easiest is by using Pythagoras theorem of right-angled triangles. Using this, the distance to the horizon is:

SQRT (h+2rh)


Where h is the eye height above sea level and r is the radius of the earth (roundly, 4,000 miles).

Using feet throughout (for a six foot eye height) the calculation becomes:

SQRT (6+(2*21120000*6) = 15920 feet.

Divide this by 5,280 (feet in a mile) and you get 3.01 miles

The vista termination from the proposed building looking beyond 331 bridge lets you see the sunset over an inland water way. This is very, very rare. I think it's valuable too.

 

[ShallowsNole]

There's my point. The horizon occurs in a variety of ways. I like this one:

This can be determined in a number of ways but perhaps the easiest is by using Pythagoras theorem of right-angled triangles. Using this, the distance to the horizon is:

SQRT (h+2rh)


Where h is the eye height above sea level and r is the radius of the earth (roundly, 4,000 miles).

Using feet throughout (for a six foot eye height) the calculation becomes:

SQRT (6+(2*21120000*6) = 15920 feet.

Divide this by 5,280 (feet in a mile) and you get 3.01 miles

The vista termination from the proposed building looking beyond 331 bridge lets you see the sunset over an inland water way. This is very, very rare. I think it's valuable too.

Here's an easier way to understand the horizon:

 

[AAbsolute]

I lived a mile down on the left for a year or two. The home was all about the bay. Sometimes like glass, sometimes textured by chop, winter north winds were like lake Michigan, and sometimes the glassy look would disappear in fog. I loved it all and framed a 6 x 6 window such that all I could see was the water like an ever changing piece of art.

If that building proposed in this Thread had been built they'd have the long view over the bridge, past Hogtown, Buck and Mack Bayous towards the tip of Driftwood and beyond. IMO they have superior sunsets compared to our South side.

This was one of my vistas.

 

[DuneLaker]

I lived a mile down on the left for a year or two. The home was all about the bay. Sometimes like glass, sometimes textured by chop, winter north winds were like lake Michigan, and sometimes the glassy look would disappear in fog. I loved it all and framed a 6 x 6 window such that all I could see was the water like an ever changing piece of art.

If that building proposed in this Thread had been built they'd have the long view over the bridge, past Hogtown, Buck and Mack Bayous towards the tip of Driftwood and beyond. IMO they have superior sunsets compared to our South side.

This was one of my vistas.

That bay view is indeed one of the most beautiful views in the world. However, IMO, the sunset views across a coastal dune lake, adjacent dunes and then the Gulf are equally awe inspiring. You get the same glass, chop, fog, cloud variety that makes each sunset special. We'll have to have a dueling sunset thread one day. But, wait until I learn how to post pictures better. Happy Sunsetting.

This development thread has been most interesting. Can someone post all the names associated with this LLC?

 

[Smiling JOe]

dunelaker, since I don't think most people have a personal problem with the property owners, I won't post their names here, but you can go to http://www.sunbiz.org/corinam.html and look up the LLC.

 

[DuneLaker]

dunelaker, since I don't think most people have a personal problem with the property owners, I won't post their names here, but you can go to http://www.sunbiz.org/corinam.html and look up the LLC.

Thanks, SJ. I will. Just interesting that news stories on any development usually fail to list the names associated with these LLCs. While some wise sages like you and others know who these folks usually are, many don't. The extra transparency might give a more complete picture to the general public. For most, it wouldn't make any difference. Guess this site lists all members for different groups in Florida. Wonder why reporters don't go there and report names? It would add some depth to their stories. Then, the public might know if this group and others has individuals involved in bankruptcy or other legal activities that affect local government. Without names it is impossible to connect some of the dots. Others know much more, so will leave much of this discussion to them. Just wondering.