Keith Olbermann won't allow me to be a popinjay..... even though I have more viewers and higher ratings than him!
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Driftwood on the BCC Agenda
- Thread starter Alan Osborne
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Keith Olbermann won't allow me to be a popinjay..... even though I have more viewers and higher ratings than him!
seagrovegirl
Beach Fanatic
I think Keith and Bill need some good old fashioned Southern Charm School...maybe Nancy Grace can meet them there.
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
Let me see if I can straighten out those statements.
Close, but no cigar. Yes, lawsuits are proceeding to correct the developer's lack of proper installation of infrastructure.
I'm not sure that Walton County has stated "their position," so I don't know what that statement means. Walton County did agree to send the developer the bill for over $300,000 of work which the County completed, at tax-payers' expense, as well as any future bills that come in on correcting the issue. According to State Law, I don't think the County has a right to repair the lack of infrastructure, and that burden is placed on the developer to correct his actions, or lack of, by the State of Florida. The County recognizes that the developer failed to install infrastructure as required by Code. The development orders should have never been approved until AFTER the infrastructure was complete, and that is according to Code.
Lastly, it is my understanding that Commissioner Commander stated several months ago at a BCC meeting, that the developer had 45 days to show "substantial work had been completed," or the County may proceed with a lawsuit against the developer. 45 days passed, and no to little action was taken by the developer. More days passed, and the day prior to the next BCC meeting, the developer signed off on some paperwork to make it appear action had been taken to start correcting the issues. If the BCC really wanted to stand behind their warnings, they should have proceeded with their own lawsuit against the developer. They did not do so. The developer's agent showed up at the BCC meeting, and said that they were trying, but also admitted that the lenders weren't very willing to free money to correct the issues, which might be interpreted that the developer cannot afford it on his own.
Interested Girl
Beach Fanatic
Once again close but no cigar.
The motion made that passed was to send a bill for legal fees pertaining to the road closure not infrastructure repairs.
The amount of the bill to be sent has never been released and as of yesterday was yet undetermined.
The motion made that passed was to send a bill for legal fees pertaining to the road closure not infrastructure repairs.
The amount of the bill to be sent has never been released and as of yesterday was yet undetermined.
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Thanks Smiling Joe and Interested Girl for the additional information. Concerning Walton County's position, I was referring to their "legal position" with respect to the lawsuit. This has remained unchanged....Walton County is not joining the lawsuit.
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Interested Girl
Beach Fanatic
They have not joined the suit - and they should not join the suit.
Driftwood and its HOA should row their own boat. A true finder of fact will determine who is right.
Just wanted to clarify what they actually did vote to do.
Driftwood and its HOA should row their own boat. A true finder of fact will determine who is right.
Just wanted to clarify what they actually did vote to do.
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
I stand corrected. You are correct that it was the "legal" bill they sent to the developer, as well as all future legal bills will be sent to the developer.
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
The County is in somewhat of a bind, because they have staff who signed off on the project noting that the infrastructure was installed as designed, and that is why the project was approved. If the County staffer had noted that it wasn't completed as designed, the project would have not been approved for development orders.
IMO, the County effed up and had a chance to escape, but turned their heads. Now, Driftwood owners can go after the County for their improper approval of the Development Orders, which violate County Code. It seems to me that there was severe lack of over-sight, or either there was twisting of arms. I'd like to think it was done due to the rapid building going on, and just lack of following up on details. The County signing off on the project as infrastructure completed, was/is a huge problem and now a big liability, in my non-legal opinion.
Personally, since the County has now researched the lack of infrastructure and found it to be incomplete, I think the burden should be placed on the County to pursuit the legal issues with the developer, not the property owners in Driftwood.
IMO, the County effed up and had a chance to escape, but turned their heads. Now, Driftwood owners can go after the County for their improper approval of the Development Orders, which violate County Code. It seems to me that there was severe lack of over-sight, or either there was twisting of arms. I'd like to think it was done due to the rapid building going on, and just lack of following up on details. The County signing off on the project as infrastructure completed, was/is a huge problem and now a big liability, in my non-legal opinion.
Personally, since the County has now researched the lack of infrastructure and found it to be incomplete, I think the burden should be placed on the County to pursuit the legal issues with the developer, not the property owners in Driftwood.
Interested Girl
Beach Fanatic
They would have effed up if they had taken the bait with Osborne's 'I won't sue the county if you join' offer. He can agree not to sue personally but he can not sign away anyone else's right to sue. It was a cheap parlour trick that failed.
This issue is right where it should be, being funded by who it should be funded by and will be litigated in due time.
Sara Palin can see Russia from her house and I can see Driftwood Estates from my high and dry Miramar Beach condo. (ROWFLMAO).
This issue is right where it should be, being funded by who it should be funded by and will be litigated in due time.
Sara Palin can see Russia from her house and I can see Driftwood Estates from my high and dry Miramar Beach condo. (ROWFLMAO).
Alan Osborne
Beach Lover
I picked a fight?
I have decided to vote for Alan. Many of you believe him to be the best candidtae for the job. I really don't know about that but I do believe that he will accomplish a peronal goal that I have. He will absolutely halt development.
His personality of aggressive behavior will absolutely run all of the developers out of Walton County. He is a true one issue guy regardless of all he says while cleaning up his reputation as a hot head. I saw that on the Dem site on their recordings. Hands waving in the air and shouting at Chairman Jones. I thought he would explode. Just what we need to grind the economy to a total halt.
I know that the fireworks will fly- and it will be like Thunder and lightning from above.
ALAN IS THE MAN .
If being a "Playground Bully" as you call it, means I'm wrong for standing up for my neighbors and our tax dollars, then call me what you will. I simply refuse to let the average citizen be pushed around. Don't you have a lawsuit of your association's pending against the county. Can you say volleyball net?
You can look at intrested girl's first post on the thread "Can Alan Osborne Sue Himself?" Read that and decide who came after who.
Below is your very first SOWAL post cut and pasted.
I have decided to vote for Alan. Many of you believe him to be the best candidtae for the job. I really don't know about that but I do believe that he will accomplish a peronal goal that I have. He will absolutely halt development.
His personality of aggressive behavior will absolutely run all of the developers out of Walton County. He is a true one issue guy regardless of all he says while cleaning up his reputation as a hot head. I saw that on the Dem site on their recordings. Hands waving in the air and shouting at Chairman Jones. I thought he would explode. Just what we need to grind the economy to a total halt.
I know that the fireworks will fly- and it will be like Thunder and lightning from above.
ALAN IS THE MAN .
If being a "Playground Bully" as you call it, means I'm wrong for standing up for my neighbors and our tax dollars, then call me what you will. I simply refuse to let the average citizen be pushed around. Don't you have a lawsuit of your association's pending against the county. Can you say volleyball net?
You can look at intrested girl's first post on the thread "Can Alan Osborne Sue Himself?" Read that and decide who came after who.
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