Enforcement for remove it or lose it?

[TreeFrog]

As for the catamaran and all the tents between Eastern Lake and Summer's Edge this week.

THE catamaran? Singular?

This morning at 6:45 you could see 4 from the Ramsgate walkover, three big ones and a little 6 or 8 footer. Two on each side of the lake outlet.

 

[toofargone]

Don't give up. the turtles are our friends

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[kathydwells]

It is about the turtles. I learned so much about them here when this issue came up before. I did alot of research on the subject myself. I think if people would do some research about the nesting practices of the turtles they might have a little more compassion about this issue. I know that is wishful thinking though. When I see all the crap left on the beach at I night, I just picture this beautiful creature coming up to the beach that once was "her" beach, to lay her eggs, and she is running into all that stuff. It breaks my heart. Yes, we carry alot of stuff to the beach during the day, but it comes back with us at night. The Turtle Watch group does an amazing job (I really want to live there just so I can be a part of this group) and I am sure when they make their morning walks they are all so upset about everything that is left on the beach. It must be heartbreaking for them as well. Please let us all just try the best way we can to educate the masses. Thanks to all of you locals, part-time locals, and visitors that do the job of keeping the beaches clean the best way you can.

 

[organicmama]

It is about the turtles. I learned so much about them here when this issue came up before. I did alot of research on the subject myself. I think if people would do some research about the nesting practices of the turtles they might have a little more compassion about this issue. I know that is wishful thinking though. When I see all the crap left on the beach at I night, I just picture this beautiful creature coming up to the beach that once was "her" beach, to lay her eggs, and she is running into all that stuff. It breaks my heart. Yes, we carry alot of stuff to the beach during the day, but it comes back with us at night. The Turtle Watch group does an amazing job (I really want to live there just so I can be a part of this group) and I am sure when they make their morning walks they are all so upset about everything that is left on the beach. It must be heartbreaking for them as well. Please let us all just try the best way we can to educate the masses. Thanks to all of you locals, part-time locals, and visitors that do the job of keeping the beaches clean the best way you can.

Thanks for saying it so well & kindheartedly. That is, in essence, everything that should have been said in this whole thread instead of being derrogatory towards one another.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I just called code enforcement.

I'm sorry to report that there is "a legal issue" with the ordinance right now. They are not currently enforcing remove it or lose it. No estimate on when the courts will resolve this issue.

I hope I don't trip over the guidewires as I am walking down the beach after sunset, and bust my head open one of their beach chairs, Tonka dumptrucks, or impale myself on one of their collapsed beach umbrellas. I cannot imagine the amount of money that one could win in a courtroom.

 

[Matt J]

I'm going to go with the fact that this is the internet and sometimes people forget that they're talking about real human beings who have feelings. I'm not lazy. Ask anyone here who KNOWS me.

I am sorry if I have personally offended you. It was the original post in which you basically asked (IMO) if you could get some sort of waiver for having kids and because it was only one weekend and because your father has owned property for 20+ years.

The fact remains that despite the inconveinence of removing everything everyday and taking it back. I can guarantee that removing a dead sea turtle or tens of babies from your area would be a much bigger headache. A lot costlier too.

I guess the reason that I am still harping on this is the fact that you still have yet to acknowledge that there is a good reason (other than asthetics) to removing everything at the end of the day.

 

[Smiling JOe]

As I have been on a quest to simply my life a bit, I have been taking less and less to the beach lately. At Grayton on Sunday, I noticed more toys than I'd ever seen, many were probably hauled down in cars. It was a zoo! What ever happened to giving a kid, one small plastic shovel and a small plastic bucket? It would be much easier to check and make sure your kid collected both of his or her toys before leaving the beach.

My last trip to the beach, other than my swimsuit and shirt which I wore, I took a small umbrella, sunblock, camera, kayak and paddle. I hauled it a few hundred feet down the beach, and set up. When I wasn't paddling, I was standing around in the water or sitting on the sand (no towel) under the umbrella. It felt so good to be that connected with the Earth. Camera is waterproof, so I didn't have to worry about my electronics getting wet. It is so relieving. I was wet and sandy and it felt good. In fact, it was one of my more funn days at the beach. I enjoy sitting in a comfy chair, but in all honesty, if I am wearing my swimsuit, and leave the phone in the car, I don't much care if I get a little sandy. I haven't taken a towel to the beach in several years. My towel always ended up sandy, which made me sandy, then, I had to dry off with a damp sandy towel. Now, I just keep one in the car to sit on for the ride home. The sun dries me off. It really is a joy to throw the cards into the air and see how they fall every once in a while. It is very easy to get into a habit without giving thought to why we do the things we do.

 

[tsutcli]

Sorry, I don't buy into the legal excuse of not removing beach items in the morning because they may be on private property. Wonder how long it took our county to think up that one. They DO NOT even ticket or remove items at county walk over's so why did they spend all that money on the signs at each entrance? Yep, convenient excuse and don't believe it for a minute! I guess the tourists have won again! Remember, these are the same people who unfortunately ignore the double red flags!

 

[TNJed]

THE catamaran? Singular?

This morning at 6:45 you could see 4 from the Ramsgate walkover, three big ones and a little 6 or 8 footer. Two on each side of the lake outlet.

You're correct. It was the little one I was referring to, next to the tent frame and chairs. I gave the owner a polite "heads up" the other day saying it could get hauled away if left there. He said he had just dragged it down there and this was 6:30 am. Unless footprints look like catamaran drag marks I ain't buyin' it.

que sera sera

I feel like I should know you as we are in the same area around the same time. If you see me give me a wave.

 

[John R]

middle ground? i don't think turtles have a middle ground mentality. nor is there a middle ground at the emergency room for someone who's injured.

there are those who will attempt to justify any behavior. the law is the law, when you break it, you are making a choice.