Fox News isn't a news organization..

[Winnie]

I don't see how this is contrary to freedom of the press unless you define it as the right of the press to force unwilling subjects speak with them. This is an example of the administration exercising its freedom of choice and right to privacy. The press has the freedom to put negative spin on this from now until the end of time. I think the administration is focusing on the people who put Obama in office (recall he stomped his opponent) and I praise them for that.

53% to 46%

The cost was over twice as much to win as to lose. Well, that is campaign spending. In real dollar terms, it is unknown. ;-)

The administration has belittled itself with this public stance on FOX News.

Many liberals are not as good at spotting bias when they agree with it as they are when they disagree with it. Some conservatives also. Here on SoWal, there appears to be a large majority who see FOX News as more biased than other outlets. Some think FOX is not only biased but also reports falsely and the other cable outlets report from the center and accurately. Just last week CNN and MSNBC were falsely quoting Rush Limbaugh. I think they begrudgingly admitted their errors eventually.

Would Van Jones or ACORN been reported on at all if FOX News hadn't reported? I hope that these incidents have shamed the other news sources into doing their jobs better. At least when President Bush was in office, there were reporters challenging every move the administration made. We need that. No public servant should be given free reign. If we really could have transparency in government, maybe we wouldn't need the press so much. Since so much is done out of the public eye, we need a cynical press. I see it more now than earlier this year - thank goodness.

I don't watch FOX News but I would if I received it on my antenna.

 

[Alicia Leonard]

Maybe this will shed some light on this discussion:

As Crooks and Liars’ Susie Madrak notes, the complainers at Fox appear to be “suffering from memory loss” about President Bush’s many off-the-record chats with conservative columnists and radio hosts, including Fox News personalities Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Glenn Beck. Additionally, they seem to forget that Obama shared an off-the-record dinner with conservative columnists, including Fox contributors Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol and Paul Gigot, before his Inauguration. Malkin should note that the dinner lasted two-and-half hours.

 

[Blair]

Maybe this will shed some light on this discussion:

As Crooks and Liars? Susie Madrak notes, the complainers at Fox appear to be ?suffering from memory loss? about President Bush?s many off-the-record chats with conservative columnists and radio hosts, including Fox News personalities Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Glenn Beck. Additionally, they seem to forget that Obama shared an off-the-record dinner with conservative columnists, including Fox contributors Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol and Paul Gigot, before his Inauguration. Malkin should note that the dinner lasted two-and-half hours.

And Katie Coouric, And Tim Russert, And Bob Schieffer....And numerous appeareaces on 60 minutes....During Obama's health care TV tour, he wouldn't even talk to Chris Wallace....Chris Wallace??? Everywhere but Fox News....In my opinion,that's where all of this crud started.

 

[LuciferSam]

53% to 46%

The cost was over twice as much to win as to lose. Well, that is campaign spending. In real dollar terms, it is unknown. ;-)

The administration has belittled itself with this public stance on FOX News.

Many liberals are not as good at spotting bias when they agree with it as they are when they disagree with it. Some conservatives also. Here on SoWal, there appears to be a large majority who see FOX News as more biased than other outlets. Some think FOX is not only biased but also reports falsely and the other cable outlets report from the center and accurately. Just last week CNN and MSNBC were falsely quoting Rush Limbaugh. I think they begrudgingly admitted their errors eventually.

Would Van Jones or ACORN been reported on at all if FOX News hadn't reported? I hope that these incidents have shamed the other news sources into doing their jobs better. At least when President Bush was in office, there were reporters challenging every move the administration made. We need that. No public servant should be given free reign. If we really could have transparency in government, maybe we wouldn't need the press so much. Since so much is done out of the public eye, we need a cynical press. I see it more now than earlier this year - thank goodness.

I don't watch FOX News but I would if I received it on my antenna.

I'm fairly certain that's a popular vote romp, and I'll spare you the pain of reliving the electoral count and the fact that the big O poached states like Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, Ohio etc.. Change I can sink my teeth into. I got what I want, you didn't. So sorry. And yes, bias that works in my favor is my kind of bias, so what else is new?

 

[Alicia Leonard]

And Katie Coouric, And Tim Russert, And Bob Schieffer....And numerous appeareaces on 60 minutes....During Obama's health care TV tour, he wouldn't even talk to Chris Wallace....Chris Wallace??? Everywhere but Fox News....In my opinion,that's where all of this crud started.

and point being, this is nothing new under the sun for either administration. I just think many had hoped it would have stopped with the last, but it is not unheard of, was my only point.

 

[Winnie]

I'm fairly certain that's a popular vote romp, and I'll spare you the pain of reliving the electoral count and the fact that the big O poached states like Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, Ohio etc.. Change I can sink my teeth into. I got what I want, you didn't. So sorry. And yes, bias that works in my favor is my kind of bias, so what else is new?

I am pointing out that 46% of us did not vote for President Obama. Your candidate won and is OUR President. We didn't resign our citizenships. We still deserve consideration and representation from the administration.

Since you recognize the overwhelming media bias in favor of candidate Obama, I wasn't referring to you as one of the liberals on SoWal who don't recognize it.

 

[scooterbug44]

Reality Check:

Have they banned Fox reporters from press briefings or covering the White House?

Have they stopped sending press releases to Fox?

Have they previously invited journalists from Fox to similar meetings?

Have they done anything that hampers Fox's ability to broadcast or report the news?

It's all whining for ratings/attention and it's exactly this kind of crap that makes me not respect or watch them.

If Fox was REALLY so dedicated and devoted to the truth, there were 80 other more important things they could have been reporting on.

 

[Winnie]

and point being, this is nothing new under the sun for either administration. I just think many had hoped it would have stopped with the last, but it is not unheard of, was my only point.

It is new for an administration to call a news organization illegitimate and announce it will be treated as an opponent. Nothing wrong with ignoring them, but playground skirmishing is beneath the office.

 

[Blair]

Reality Check:

Have they banned Fox reporters from press briefings or covering the White House?

Have they stopped sending press releases to Fox?

Have they previously invited journalists from Fox to similar meetings?

Have they done anything that hampers Fox's ability to broadcast or report the news?

It's all whining for ratings/attention and it's exactly this kind of crap that makes me not respect or watch them.

If Fox was REALLY so dedicated and devoted to the truth, there were 80 other more important things they could have been reporting on.

Nope...they can't

Nope...not yet

Don't know...probably

Nope...they're still #1

It's not whining when you're being singled out....

They covered balloon boy as much as any news channel did...

 

[Alicia Leonard]

It is new for an administration to call a news organization illegitimate and announce it will be treated as an opponent. Nothing wrong with ignoring them, but playground skirmishing is beneath the office.

Bush did with MSNBC and put pressure on NBC over it. Google the source of your choice.