Freedom rally - april 17th

[GoodWitch58]

Our country was founded by people who sought freedom OF religion - not freedom FROM religion. If you have read any history of our country's founding, you would have seen innumerable references to our Christian heritage. Just take a look at the monuments in Washington, DC and all of the references to Christianity incorporated in their construction. When the Constitution was being written, a citizen wanted to get a glimpse of George Washington and asked someone how he could distinguish Washington from the other members at the gathering of patriots, he was told to look for the man who kneels to pray to God.

Our country was founded on Christian principles, but we have always allowed others to worship as they wished. Now, we are at a crossroads where our freedom to worship as we desire is being threatened - if not downright outlawed. If ever there was a freedom to fight for, it is our freedom to worship God as we desire - just as every other religion is allowed to do.

what history books are you reading from...and what comparative religion source...

 

[Andy A]

Let me try and put this into some semblance of reasonability.
It is obvious that some do not agree with the tea party movement or their rallies. There are, as with every group, different factions with slightly different points of view on the issues within the tea party movement. But this much I can assure you that all agree on.
1. Limited government
2. Return of certain rights, granted to them, to the states.
3. Sound fiscal policy. Quit spending what we don't have.
4. Taxation that is simple, understandable and fair
5. Elected officials that are for responsible governmnmt and responsible to citizens.
There are more I am sure but these are among the basics. If I am wrong in my assumptions, please, some Tea Party Patriot correct me and also feel free to add to my five above. And 30Ashopper and Desso, I'll be the one in the red shirt and Veteran's cap. Please come over and introduce yourselves and say "hello".

 

[LuciferSam]

And, as usual, you are being a snark. I am dealing with it, it is you that causes the problems. Also, your idea of appropriate and mine differ greatly. I am anything but a religious bigot but I will defend until my dying day anyone's right to express their religious belief or non-belief. You and others, on the other hand, seem intent on denying them that right because it doesn't cotton to whatever your beliefs might happen to be.

As usual you simply miss the point and don't get it.

P.S. I don't try deny anyone's right to do anything. They simply don't get my approval, support, money, blessing, whatever. Furthermore they may be subject to my ridicule. I sadi it before and I'll say it again DEAL WITH IT!

 

[scooterbug44]

what history books are you reading from...and what comparative religion source...

Not sure, but apparently they don't mention the architecture of NON-CHRISTIAN Greeks, Romans, or Egyptians....................which is what most of the buildings/monuments in D.C. are based on! :rofl:

 

[poppy]

I'll be the liberal at the teaparty burning the flag and teaching the virtues of death camps and socialism, come on over and say hi.

 

[Jdarg]

Let me try and put this into some semblance of reasonability.
It is obvious that some do not agree with the tea party movement or their rallies. There are, as with every group, different factions with slightly different points of view on the issues within the tea party movement. But this much I can assure you that all agree on.
1. Limited government
2. Return of certain rights, granted to them, to the states.
3. Sound fiscal policy. Quit spending what we don't have.
4. Taxation that is simple, understandable and fair
5. Elected officials that are for responsible governmnmt and responsible to citizens.
There are more I am sure but these are among the basics. If I am wrong in my assumptions, please, some Tea Party Patriot correct me and also feel free to add to my five above. And 30Ashopper and Desso, I'll be the one in the red shirt and Veteran's cap. Please come over and introduce yourselves and say "hello".

A quick look at the Walton County Patriots website was interesting. What if an atheist has the same concerns about limited government fiscal policy, and other "basics" but does not worship God? Would that person feel welcome at a Tea Party event? There is a lot of God thrown around on that website, and I have a feeling it is a Christian God, right? Are there any Jewish Tea Party Patriots? Or Muslim? Or Buddhist? Someone please remind me again why God has to come into this?

 

[GoodWitch58]

Let me try and put this into some semblance of reasonability.
It is obvious that some do not agree with the tea party movement or their rallies. There are, as with every group, different factions with slightly different points of view on the issues within the tea party movement. But this much I can assure you that all agree on.
1. Limited government
2. Return of certain rights, granted to them, to the states.
3. Sound fiscal policy. Quit spending what we don't have.
4. Taxation that is simple, understandable and fair
5. Elected officials that are for responsible governmnmt and responsible to citizens.
There are more I am sure but these are among the basics. If I am wrong in my assumptions, please, some Tea Party Patriot correct me and also feel free to add to my five above. And 30Ashopper and Desso, I'll be the one in the red shirt and Veteran's cap. Please come over and introduce yourselves and say "hello".

Andy A. did you know if the Walton County Tea Party group is affiliated with the Russo consultants out of California? or is it strictly a local, Walton County group?

 

[30ashopper]

A quick look at the Walton County Patriots website was interesting. What if an atheist has the same concerns about limited government fiscal policy, and other "basics" but does not worship God? Would that person feel welcome at a Tea Party event? There is a lot of God thrown around on that website, and I have a feeling it is a Christian God, right? Are there any Jewish Tea Party Patriots? Or Muslim? Or Buddhist? Someone please remind me again why God has to come into this?

I think that's an inevitable side effect of our area of the country.

Found this:

The rise of a new conservative grass roots fueled by a secular revulsion at government spending is stirring fears among leaders of the old conservative grass roots, the evangelical Christian right. ​

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“There’s a libertarian streak in the tea party movement that concerns me as a cultural conservative,” said Bryan Fischer, director of Issue Analysis for Government and Public Policy at the American Family Association. “The tea party movement needs to insist that candidates believe in the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage.” ​

Tea parties stir evangelicals' fears - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

Um, no it doesn't. People involved are free to express that feeling, but the group as a whole should not make these central issues, IMHO. Andy, what's your take?

 

[Matt J]

Our country was founded by people who sought freedom OF religion - not freedom FROM religion. If you have read any history of our country's founding, you would have seen innumerable references to our Christian heritage. Just take a look at the monuments in Washington, DC and all of the references to Christianity incorporated in their construction. When the Constitution was being written, a citizen wanted to get a glimpse of George Washington and asked someone how he could distinguish Washington from the other members at the gathering of patriots, he was told to look for the man who kneels to pray to God.

Our country was founded on Christian principles, but we have always allowed others to worship as they wished. Now, we are at a crossroads where our freedom to worship as we desire is being threatened - if not downright outlawed. If ever there was a freedom to fight for, it is our freedom to worship God as we desire - just as every other religion is allowed to do.

George Washington knelt in prayer as much as he chopped down Cherry trees.

GW & Religion

 

[Eileen West]

You have to admit Democrats are extremely worried about the Tea Party movement. So much so that they're scrambling to place people on the ground at the rallys to try and make them look racist, violent and fanatical.

it's ironic that the far left that proclaims the right to freedom of speech is trying to extinguish others of that right.

Calling them racists has failed to take root.

They need to engage them on the issues instead of resorting to name calling and fear mongering.

So you're saying that Democrats infiltrated the teabaggers and they were the ones spitting and yelling racial slurs?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA