Help! Bulldozing on Bay Right Now

[Smiling JOe]

Rapunzel,

I may be mistaken but I thought one of the last posts came from the owner where he/she threatened to sue some people on the board for slander?

That which I posted was not slander and was simply pointing out what Code Enforcement did. Somehow it turned into a mosquito control issue, but there was not slander.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Interesting that the Stop Work Order was issued for only the lot the TrackHoe Operator was on when Code Enforcement showed up, even though the guy had already been on the other 6 lots, including lot 1, where he built up the beach sand with sand from the Bay.

 

[DevFin]

Smiling Joe,

Obviously if a stop work order has been posted for the lack of permits, something is amiss. I agree with your posting on this after that fact.

Btw, I never said you slandered anyone. I was merely to the best of my recollection trying to explain to Rapunzel who was wondering if the owner ever responded. If he indeed responded and the word slander or something like that was not used I stand corrected.

As to your comment that the DEP guy would fight to minimize boat traffic rather than to save the wetlands, the environment and prevent silt damage, it just proves your one sided argument. As I don't know either of you, it may be true. But why is this environmentally sensitive neighborhood not concerned about it? I'm sure it has nothing to do with rising property values.

 

[Smiling JOe]

KevinC, thank you for clearing that up. There are many things I am willing to fight. The last things I will fight are the ones which are legal. The first ones I will fight are the things which are illegal. Enforce the laws on the books. The dredging permits are in place for the canals in Daughettes. They are not in place for this particular property, according to the Code Enforcement.

 

[DevFin]

Smiling Joe,
Just curious, do you own property on these canals and how much if at all did you fight the dredging project before it was permitted and thus legal? Surely you realize it will do much more harm to the environment than what the backhoe did. Just because something is approved doesn't make it right, right?

 

[Kurt]

Since slander is mentioned occasionally here I thought some of you might be interested in a quick read - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander_and_libel

The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, film, compact disc and the like, then it is considered libel.

For quite some time I thought I would never use most of the things I learned in school. Turns out I use every one of them. Even pie ain't square, pie are round

 

[GoodWitch58]

Kevin C will you please explain your statement about how the dredging will violate the environment? It would be helpful for those of us who are interested to have some idea of what is behind your statement.

Dredging is pretty common and is usually done in the approrpriate manner with the proper permits. What are your specific thoughts? Thanks.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Smiling Joe,
Just curious, do you own property on these canals and how much if at all did you fight the dredging project before it was permitted and thus legal? Surely you realize it will do much more harm to the environment than what the backhoe did. Just because something is approved doesn't make it right, right?

No, I don't own, nor never have owned, nor have a contract to own, canal front property in Daughettes. You are correct, just because something is legal doesn't make it right, but you won't see me pounding my head into the pavement to change it. There are plenty of laws on the books which are unjust in my opinion, but I try to obey them in respect for the public, which my personal beliefs may go against. I've learned what I can influence, and thus far, I have not found the Gov't to be one of those things.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Dredging is pretty common and is usually done in the approrpriate manner with the proper permits. What are your specific thoughts? Thanks.

Your comment reminds me of somthing else. When done with permits, there are plenty of people watching, including regular checks by Code Enforcement and in the case of dredging the canals, I am sure the DEP (dept of environmental protection). In the case of the guy who doesn't apply for the permit, Code Enforcement doesn't know to check on the project unless someone calls for investigation, and therefore the unpermitted person might not know that they what exactly they needed to do in order to comply. If the Building Dept let some people build at random, how would you know what standards to expect in your own home? No different here.

 

[Bdarg]

Kevin C will you please explain your statement about how the dredging will violate the environment? It would be helpful for those of us who are interested to have some idea of what is behind your statement.

Dredging is pretty common and is usually done in the approrpriate manner with the proper permits. What are your specific thoughts? Thanks.

Permits are not a guarantee that nothing will be harmed in performing a task such as dredging, but rather a permit is the community?s attempt to assure itself that the best techniques are used to perform the task, the task is defined, and the techniques are reviewed by knowledgeable people in order to minimize the impact to the community. Many of the things that we do on a daily basis leave a much bigger footprint than we are often aware?some of which are innocuous and some of which are not.