House Democrats Spurn Obama-GOP Tax-Cut Deal : It's All Politics : NPR
And they think they will get a better deal next month?
And they think they will get a better deal next month?
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House Democrats Not to take Obama/GOP tax bill
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BeachSiO2
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Considering that the Senate already voted against what the House wants (cuts for incomes 250k and under) I really don't know where this is going.
The question now becomes who will blink first. The Repubs who think the elections of 2010 sent them to DC with a mandate from the people. Or the Dems who think the elections of 2008 sent them to DC with a mandate from the people....
I seem to remember when the Repubs (Bunning, I think) played games with unemployment that he got skewered by the Dems. Will turnabout be fair play? I can hear the Repubs now, "We came to the White House to work for a bipartisan solution with the President, and we developed a solution to help the unemployed and working class. Now the House Dems are holding those unemployment checks hostage...."
The question now becomes who will blink first. The Repubs who think the elections of 2010 sent them to DC with a mandate from the people. Or the Dems who think the elections of 2008 sent them to DC with a mandate from the people....
I seem to remember when the Repubs (Bunning, I think) played games with unemployment that he got skewered by the Dems. Will turnabout be fair play? I can hear the Repubs now, "We came to the White House to work for a bipartisan solution with the President, and we developed a solution to help the unemployed and working class. Now the House Dems are holding those unemployment checks hostage...."
with all due respect, that is an insulting and grossly inaccurate accusation. im often amazed that so many are caught up in these silly campaign slogans.
for the record, the military just got the lowest pay raise in 50 years and the dems are still in charge.
and its these so-called millionaires that use tax relief to buy homes here in walton county etc etc etc. and its these millionaires by a long shot that are the only ones hiring and buying right now.
economics 101
30ashopper
SoWal Insider
Breaking: House Democrats vote to table Obama’s tax cuts bill; Update: Pelosi’s office demands changes; Update: WH to force Pelosi’s hand? Update: It’ll pass, says Barney Frank ? Hot Air
Nanci's last power grab before she's finally forced to sit the heck down and shut the hail up.
Nanci's last power grab before she's finally forced to sit the heck down and shut the hail up.
Matt J
SWGB
You said it's insulting and grossly inaccurate, but could you explain it without then changing the subject.
I know plenty of people who aren't millionaires that are or have bought homes here.
I know, and am one, plenty of people who aren't millionaires that employ people and are hiring right now.
You should probably stop putting millionaires up on pedestals as though they are the only people in the world that keep our economy going.
Also you seem to be under the impression that the government taxes net wealth when the plans proposed are based on income. There are very few, if any, folks making a million dollars a year in South Walton.
Economics 101 - when companies hire workers the unemployment rate goes down
Who's putting millionaires on a pedestal? Im just sick and tired of the left playing class warefare. Since when is it ok to take from some and give to others? Wheres the freedom in that? Since when do we demonize success? Its not these millionaires that caused our debt yet our tax and spend politicians like to use them as a atm machine in one hand and in the other toss them under the bus on the campaign trail.
And of course its not just millionaires that create jobs. Who's saying that? Im certainly not. Lets remember its not just millionaires that are effected in this bill. Its nearly all small business and folks making over 250K. Even Barack figured that out even though we had to do in-house training on the subject.
And you're right in that there arent alot of yearly income earners of a million dollars in this town. Although i know for a certainty that there are, there isnt many. However, you just proved my point. Its millionaires out of town by a long shot that are investing in this county. Simply look at the residential construction and the only houses being built, which effect every trade are those that the left want to tax more. And its these people who are buying boats, going on high maintance vacations such as walton county and the list goes on. And its these people that put south walton on the map from the start.
Matt J
SWGB
You are putting them on a pedestal, from your previous post:
You are still implying that the "millionaires" that are buying and building in the current market are going to be affected by this tax increase, again the tax increase will be on income not net worth. To get even more technical I believe that the increase is on payroll taxes so those heavy dividends from stock portfolios shouldn't be taking a big hit.
No one is saying that the government should take from the rich and give to the poor, that's a soundbite the GOP and Fox News like to toss around. The fact is that is what government does, in some cases they even take from the poor and give to the wealthy. The problem that most conservatives have is they cannot separate government and business and want to look at government as though it is a business.