Illegal Immigration legislation in Sowal

[Smiling JOe]

This is what I was missing!

I thought that BEING an illegal alien wasn't itself a crime, but that they got you on the technicalities - for violating immigration laws, false papers etc.

BINGO! forging Federal and State documents is a criminal act. So is Income Tax Evasion.

 

[BeachSiO2]

BINGO! forging Federal and State documents is a criminal act. So is Income Tax Evasion.

No kidding, I knew I shouldn't have listened to those tax guys...

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/DOJ/wireStory?id=4657140

 

[Smiling JOe]

I think much is said about our gov't in the way which they shift the burden of identifying illegals to the employers in the US, rather than having the balls to do it themselves.

BTW, gayboi, I think the new hi-tech driver's licenses allow one to cross back and forth into Mexico, Canada, and the Carribean, using only one's driver's license.

 

[scooterbug44]

BINGO! forging Federal and State documents is a criminal act. So is Income Tax Evasion.

Which brings us full circle as to why illegals are not being detained and charged for these crimes.

I would believe the Shrub's "terror and need for increased security" rhetoric if the gov't showed some serious effort to track/prevent people from entering the country and enforcement of the immigration laws. :roll:

 

[elgordoboy]

Rather amazing the lengths people will go to for the honor of cutting our lawns, and it is amazing what we want to do to them for it.

 

[scooterbug44]

Yes, what was I thinking with my impossibly high (and obviously xenophobic) standard of wanting people to follow basic laws! :roll:

Either it's a crime and we should be enforcing it, or we should change the laws/policies.

 

[elgordoboy]

Yes, what was I thinking with my impossibly high (and obviously xenophobic) standard of wanting people to follow basic laws! :roll:

Either it's a crime and we should be enforcing it, or we should change the laws/policies.

Legalizing them would solve the issue I agree.

 

[Alicia Leonard]

Per Fark :Here are nine billion reasons the Feds aren't interested in stopping illegal immigration

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/biz/5695140.html

 

[elgordoboy]

Those of you with turbotax can play around a bit. Put in 25k gross income and use 3 dependents (wife and 2 kids). Maybe the tax laws are different on immigrants as far as what is taxed ( I don't think so but I could be very wrong). But if they are the same then EITC/child credits could kick in on many returns. Instead of not collecting anything as is now occurring on many, a be check would actually be cut from the Treasury up to a few grand per cabeza (those with more kids). I believe the income tax in regards to illegal aliens to be a non issue, seems like it would be a break even or close.

 

[Rita]

................ I want everyone to be able to have a better life but we have to fix our immigration system. Bottom line is economics drives illegal immigration and country policy such as oppression after that. Businesses have to be punished to keep it in check. Very few have or have not been fined properly and in an amount that hurts.
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I think much is said about our gov't in the way which they shift the burden of identifying illegals to the employers in the US, rather than having the balls to do it themselves.
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Here's an article about a small town in the DFW Metroplex area that came under fire last year for trying to make landlords do part of the "enforcement". There was what appeared to be racial profiling in traffic stops in this burg also. They wanted the Mexicans to move to other towns so their town didn't have the extra expenses of schooling, health care ..... you name it. (which does create burdens on a community - so answers are needed, but I don't think Farmer's Branch answers are the way to go.)

Anti-Illegal-Immigrant Law OK'd in Texas

By ANABELLE GARAY
The Associated Press
Sunday, May 13, 2007; 5:17 AM

FARMERS BRANCH, Texas -- Voters in this Dallas suburb became the first in the nation Saturday to prohibit landlords from renting to most illegal immigrants.
The ban was approved by a vote of 68 percent to 32 percent in final, unofficial returns.

The balloting marked the first public vote on a local government measure to crack down on illegal immigration.
"It says especially to Congress that we're tired of the out-of-control illegal immigration problem. That if Congress doesn't do something about it, cities will," said Tim O'Hare, a City Council member who was the ordinance's lead proponent.
The ordinance requires apartment managers to verify that renters are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants before leasing to them, with some exceptions.
Property managers or owners who break the rule face a misdemeanor charge punishable by a fine of up to $500.
Council members approved the ordinance in November, then revised it in January to include exemptions for minors, seniors and some families with a mix of legal residents and illegal immigrants.
Farmers Branch has become the site of protests and angry confrontations, and opponents of the regulation gathered enough signatures to force the city to put the measure on the municipal election ballot.
With Saturday's approval of the ban, opponents plan to fight it in court, and will seek a restraining order to stop the city from enforcing it.
The city was already facing four lawsuits brought by civil rights groups, residents, property owners and businesses who contend the ordinance discriminates and that it places landlords in the precarious position of acting as federal immigration officers. Their attorneys say the ordinance attempts to regulate immigration, a duty that is exclusively the federal government's. One lawsuit also alleges the council violated the state open meetings act when deciding on the ordinance.
O'Hare contends the city's economy and quality of life will improve if illegal immigrants are kept out.
Around the country, more than 90 local governments have proposed, passed or rejected laws prohibiting landlords from leasing to illegal immigrants, penalizing businesses that employ them or training police to enforce immigration laws.
Local proposals aimed at regulating illegal immigration often fail to pass constitutional muster, said Muzaffar Chishti, director of the Migration Policy Institute office at New York University School of Law.
"There is significant frustration, so that's what's driving it," Chishti said. "But the simple fact is they cannot do too much other than impress upon the Congress the need for immigration reform.


A federal judge blocked enforcement of the city's ban on rentals to illegal immigrants. This spring the city was found to have asked several apartment complexes (through a question on their application form) to check whether prospective tenants were in the country legally. The City Manager has called the inclusion of the on the rental forms an "unfortunate error".


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