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Is the FL State Budget headed for trouble?

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An even simpler solution: Politicos should stop using our tax money to appease the whims of fat-cat developers and feathering their own retirement nests.

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There is even a simpler solution than that. What about sifting some of that lottery money around? Now see that is something no one has thought of. The funds moved around are EVEN funded by the tourist that the fat-cat developers bring into the state. Ha!
 
There is even a simpler solution than that. What about sifting some of that lottery money around? Now see that is something no one has thought of. The funds moved around are EVEN funded by the tourist that the fat-cat developers bring into the state. Ha!

That will mean <they'll claim> the Florida education system will suffer, which will force Florida's tikes out into the streets hawking overpriced chocolate bars, nuts and cookie dough (which pumps up corporate profits as well) even more times than they already are!

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That will mean <they'll claim> the Florida education system will suffer, which will force Florida's tike's out into the streets hawking overpriced chocolate bars, nuts and cookie dough (which pumps up corporate profits as well) even more times than they already are!

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I do not think that will happen.
 
I have a son at FSU and also visited UF recently and sure seems there is a lot of building going on. Wish we could attract the masses to help us out.

Per student funding in Florida higher education right now is abysmal- thirty years of explosive growth and funding has not kept up anywhere near that growth. Tallahassee refuses to increase funding consistent with enrollment growth, and then throws a fit when a school asks to raise tuition to cover the gap.

I've worked in the system off and on since 2000, and from what I've seen over the years, the only public univeristy in the state I'd tell a good student to go to is New College.
 
don't like that idea one bit...i don't own a home but i do make some income. how bout consumption?

I am confused as to what is actually taxed in Florida? I know food is not, but based on the States income tax web site, it makes it sound like only rental/ tourism services like rental cars etc. are taxed.
Consumption seems logical.

Here is an interesting piece of the above study I posted, although I find it to be lacking in many areas.

No added tax breaks for retirees
That is not an idea, we should stipulate, under active consideration in Florida to our knowledge. However some states have taken such action – Mississippi, for instance, designating as partially tax-exempt several areas for the development of retirement communities. Georgia debated, but did not pass an income tax waiver for retirees moving to the state. We anticipate more such action as the courting of baby-boomer retirees gathers momentum. Our research suggests taxes are a minor factor in determining decisions of retirees on where to locate, and only very large reductions hold any promise of making a difference. Besides we think it is fair to ask retirees to contribute to adequate provision of education and other services in their new state. Many received a recent tax break with the partial repeal of the intangibles tax. ​
 
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There is even a simpler solution than that. What about sifting some of that lottery money around? Now see that is something no one has thought of. The funds moved around are EVEN funded by the tourist that the fat-cat developers bring into the state. Ha!
yes, take the Lotto money away from education?!?
 
Good news: Fewer people moving to Florida
Posted on Sun, Jan. 13, 2008
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By CARL HIAASEN

The mad stampede of new residents into Florida is finally slowing down, the inevitable result of high taxes, miserable traffic, overcrowded classrooms and other unappealing urban problems.

According to the Census Bureau, the state's population grew by only 1.1 percent during the 12-month span ending last July 1. That's a significant dip from the 1.8 percent increase recorded the previous year, and it drops Florida's growth rate to 19th in the nation.

This is a cause for relief, not panic. Any lull in the avalanche of incoming humanity should be eagerly welcomed by the 18.3 million souls already living here. The last thing we need is more warm bodies clogging the roads, schools, courts, jails and hospitals.

A break is long overdue. It's not a crisis but rather an opportunity. At long last, state and community leaders might be forced to intelligently confront the economic blowback from decades of inept planning and greed-fueled runaway growth.

With each passing day, Florida is becoming a less desirable place to live. For the first time in modern memory, moving companies report that they're transporting more families out of the Sunshine State than into it.

The disenchantment is widespread and deep-seated, judging by a new Mason-Dixon survey that was released by Leadership Florida, a group founded by the state Chamber of Commerce.

Of more than 1,100 residents interviewed by telephone in November, 43 percent said their quality of life has declined over the last five years. That's an eye-popping number, up 7 percent from 2006.

More evidence that lots of people see their Florida dream dissolving: Of those surveyed, only 24 percent said they think things will get better during the next five years. Thirty-seven percent believe the state will become a worse place to live during that time.

The increasingly glum outlook of many Floridians isn't just a reaction to off-the-chart property taxes and insurance rates, as politicians want us to believe.

More and more folks are figuring out what serious urban planners have known for a long time: Run-amok growth doesn't pay for itself. Taxpayers always get stuck with the bill for sprawl and also with the hometown ills it brings. By an overwhelming margin of nearly three-to-one, Floridians polled in the Leadership Florida survey oppose higher population densities in their neighborhoods -- a view that resonates fairly evenly among registered Democrats, Republicans and independents.

A majority of residents, 52 percent, believe local governments are ''not effectively managing growth'' in their communities. The figure is unchanged from 2006, and the Mason-Dixon pollsters describe the sentiment as ``strong and and consistent among all groups and across the state.''

Respondents were divided evenly when asked whether new people moving into Florida was good or bad. The question is rarely even whispered among politicians, many of whom live in fear of antagonizing the developers, bankers and road builders who bankroll election campaigns.

The beleaguered sense among many Floridians -- that they're not only being overtaxed but overrun -- will not soon go away. Politicians who resist calls for strict land-use reforms and continue to shill for special interests risk being dumped from office by those whom they've ignored.

It's happened already in scores of municipalities where voters got fed up watching their green spaces malled and paved while the waterfronts went condo.

The social equation isn't complicated. The more people you cram into a place, even a place as vast and geographically diverse as Florida, the more stressful life becomes for everybody. It also becomes more expensive. Ask anyone in New York or California what happened to their taxes as the populations of those states swelled.

A bipartisan group that advocates semi-sane growth policies, 1000 Friends of Florida, last year predicted that the state's population would double to 36 million by 2060, and that seven million acres of agricultural land and wilderness would be converted to concrete and asphalt.

That was before the real-estate market tanked and the subprime mortgage racket imploded, but there's no denying that even an overcrowded Florida continues to hold some mythical allure, whether you live in Dubuque or Port-au-Prince.

Despite their rising disillusionment, about 62 percent of those interviewed for the Leadership Florida poll said they'd still recommend the state as a place for friends or relatives to live.

For strangers? Maybe not. Because growth is an exalted industry unto itself, rather than the natural result of a broadening economic base, lawmakers have always focused on attracting hordes of new residents at all costs. The first casualty of such a fast-buck mentality is the quality of life.

One out of five Floridians surveyed in November say they are ''seriously considering'' moving elsewhere.

This is what's known as a message. And, for those who've sold out Florida's future to enrich their campaign coffers, it breaks down like this:

Enough.
 
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