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What I think is that the Iranians thought that Reagan may have sent in a missile or two into Tehran. It is not reality but perception sometimes drives the world.

Diplomacy without every other option left on the table is meaningless and useless. Look how long we have been involved in diplomacy with Iran over its nukes. Iran is playing games but the UN is so serious about diplomacy. Don't misunderstand me: I am not for war. I favor bringing our troops home as soon as possible and I don't mean Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean from the Arabian penisular, Germany, Japan, etc. I want to play defense from now on. A mean brand of defense but defense nonetheless. I would raise the bar for good behavior by the bad boys of the world. Iran, you send in a few nuclear tipped Shahabs into Tel Aviv, here, in painful detail, is what we will do. Your ball.

I don't know if perception works quite the way it used to. There are too many media outlets at least capable of communicating reality. One reason McCain lost is that he didn't realize that. His old school communication style was rendered obsolete IMO.
 
I don't know if perception works quite the way it used to. There are too many media outlets at least capable of communicating reality. One reason McCain lost is that he didn't realize that. His old school communication style was rendered obsolete IMO.

Well, it seems to me that what really matters is how other world leaders view reality or the perception of reality. If we consider thugs like Russia, Iran and now Venezuela, their perceptions of Obama at the moment must have them smiling. He looked pathetic in the news conference as he replied about Iran. Don't misunderstand me: I am not piling on Obama. Just could not help but notice his response on Iran. He was an uncomfortable as one can be. That is why I hope and expect that he will surround himself with talented and respected national security advisers like Powell.
 
Uh no. It is because he is inexperienced and we do not know who he is. The same scrutiny would be given by the Democrats had Sarah Palin or Bobby Jindal been elected president during this election because they too have limited experience, the difference being they do have executive experience. Every other president since I have been born, from Nixon to George W. Bush has been either a governor or a nationally known political figure before being elected president. That may be good or that may be bad, but at least you know what you are getting into.

I am afraid of how Obama will "rule" on all of the issues from taxes to the war in Iraq to redistribution of wealth because I have no idea what to expect of him and how far left he will go. Added to that is the fact that he will have a lot of help from Congress.

You are casting non-supporters of Obama as weak-minded believers of what you call fearmongering propaganda. Sorry to disappoint, but most of us are free thinking and passionate about our beliefs in the Constitution and what is best for the country.

If we knew then what we know now, would we still have voted for Nixon or Bush? I think not. One was a lying crook and the other has bent the Constitution to serve a very twisted political agenda. What history has shown us is that neither did what was best for the countries people as a whole.

Don't you think we should wait until there is evidence of what IS happening before any judgement is passed? Being afraid of something that may or may not happen is simply a projection of one's mind, a way of thinking. It does not exist...and may never exist. Nothing has actually happened yet. What is there to be afraid of?

As Jung stated long ago "the collective unconcious hasn't woken up yet". I think it is past time we did. If we all change our way of thinking to a more positive, present methodology, maybe there won't have been any reason to be afraid in the first place. Our collective good intentions may, just may, make some positive difference, have some positive effect in the world. Don't you think it's worth a try...or have we become so jaded that even trying to give someone the benefit of the doubt and hope for a change for the better is out of the question?

Does anyone else out there believe that "be afraid, be very afraid" is unnecessary for a free thinking and passionate people to survive and thrive, even in a dangerous world? Be vigilant and skeptical, not feaful and cynical...please.

How about putting more positive energy into the coming change. It might just make a difference. What can it hurt to try? I don't think it's too much to ask, do you?
 
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CCK, I don't find it odd that folks like yourself are watching everything Obama does because they didn't vote for him, because they don't trust him, because they don't know how he will lead and because he is untested on a national level of governing. I find it odd that I never heard folks feeling this way about a president elect until now- until this one...

... but Obama is the "uniter," so surely everyone will come to love him. :floor:
 
Well, it seems to me that what really matters is how other world leaders view reality or the perception of reality. If we consider thugs like Russia, Iran and now Venezuela, their perceptions of Obama at the moment must have them smiling. He looked pathetic in the news conference as he replied about Iran. Don't misunderstand me: I am not piling on Obama. Just could not help but notice his response on Iran. He was an uncomfortable as one can be. That is why I hope and expect that he will surround himself with talented and respected national security advisers like Powell.

I don't know if uncomfortable is the word , more like unsettled, but I agree, as a whole he looked unsettled, not just about Iran, but on everything. he started to gain more composure towards the end of the press conference. I am not sure what you mean though about his response regarding Iran. He didn't say anything we haven't heard already, and the Iranians already are in an uproar about his comment related to not tolerating their aiding terrorists. Also, lets not forget that there is a an election for the Presidency in Iran and Ahmandinejad is playing the politics game. Obama's got Poland spreading rumors that he said the missile defense program was go, Russia is breathing down his throat about it. We've got major economic problems here for him to contend with. The CIA and FBI have reported an exponential amount of domestic death threats since September. He's got Pelosi and Reid to deal with and setting up his Cabinet and staff members. To boot, I am sure there is intelligence that, we the public, are not privy to. Let's give him some time to gain his footing.

Hail, if it were me, I would be looking for some remote island for me and my family and to heck with it all. :blink:
 
Below is the transcript from his first press conference that reflects the Iran question and his answer. I am sure the video is on YouTube and you can easily see his cheeks turn red as blood. Thugs look for such signs. Plus the transcript does not show all his delays, uhs and stutters.


QUESTION: Senator, for the first time since the Iranian revolution, the president of Iran sent a congratulations note to a new U.S. president.
I'm wondering if, first of all, if you responded to President Ahmadinejad's note of congratulations and, second of all, and more importantly, how soon do you plan on sending low-level envoys to countries such as Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, to see if a presidential-level talk would be productive?

OBAMA: I am aware that the letter was sent. Let me state -- repeat what I stated during the course of the campaign.

Iran's development of a nuclear weapon I believe is unacceptable. And we have to mount a international effort to prevent that from happening.
Iran's support of terrorist organizations I think is something that has to cease.
I will be reviewing the letter from President Ahmadinejad, and we will respond appropriately. It's only been three days since the election. Obviously, how we approach and deal with a country like Iran is not something that we should, you know, simply do in a knee-jerk fashion.

I think we've got to think it through.

But I have to reiterate once again that we only have one president at a time. And I want to be very careful that we are sending the right signals to the world as a whole that I am not the president and I won't be until January 20th.
 
Below is the transcript from his first press conference that reflects the Iran question and his answer. I am sure the video is on YouTube and you can easily see his cheeks turn red as blood. Thugs look for such signs. Plus the transcript does not show all his delays, uhs and stutters..

I did watch it already. Like I said, I noticed he was unsettled and did not display his typical self assuredness. One thing that did confuse me was whether he said Iran is making nuclear weapons or the possibility of that. if the transcript is correct, then that was a flub and maybe that is why the red face. Intelligence we are not privy to? We all know their nuke tech is under ground and they swear up and down its for electricity, but we the public, haven't heard of a weapon being definitely produced.
 
Below is the transcript from his first press conference that reflects the Iran question and his answer. I am sure the video is on YouTube and you can easily see his cheeks turn red as blood. Thugs look for such signs. Plus the transcript does not show all his delays, uhs and stutters.


QUESTION: Senator, for the first time since the Iranian revolution, the president of Iran sent a congratulations note to a new U.S. president.
I'm wondering if, first of all, if you responded to President Ahmadinejad's note of congratulations and, second of all, and more importantly, how soon do you plan on sending low-level envoys to countries such as Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, to see if a presidential-level talk would be productive?

OBAMA: I am aware that the letter was sent. Let me state -- repeat what I stated during the course of the campaign.

Iran's development of a nuclear weapon I believe is unacceptable. And we have to mount a international effort to prevent that from happening.
Iran's support of terrorist organizations I think is something that has to cease.
I will be reviewing the letter from President Ahmadinejad, and we will respond appropriately. It's only been three days since the election. Obviously, how we approach and deal with a country like Iran is not something that we should, you know, simply do in a knee-jerk fashion.

I think we've got to think it through.

But I have to reiterate once again that we only have one president at a time. And I want to be very careful that we are sending the right signals to the world as a whole that I am not the president and I won't be until January 20th.

Is that the one he gave about 3 days ago? If so it sounded good to me. I don't know what you mean. In writing it looks perfect. Sorry!:idontno:
 
Below is the transcript from his first press conference that reflects the Iran question and his answer. I am sure the video is on YouTube and you can easily see his cheeks turn red as blood. Thugs look for such signs. Plus the transcript does not show all his delays, uhs and stutters.


QUESTION: Senator, for the first time since the Iranian revolution, the president of Iran sent a congratulations note to a new U.S. president.
I'm wondering if, first of all, if you responded to President Ahmadinejad's note of congratulations and, second of all, and more importantly, how soon do you plan on sending low-level envoys to countries such as Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, to see if a presidential-level talk would be productive?

OBAMA: I am aware that the letter was sent. Let me state -- repeat what I stated during the course of the campaign.

Iran's development of a nuclear weapon I believe is unacceptable. And we have to mount a international effort to prevent that from happening.
Iran's support of terrorist organizations I think is something that has to cease.
I will be reviewing the letter from President Ahmadinejad, and we will respond appropriately. It's only been three days since the election. Obviously, how we approach and deal with a country like Iran is not something that we should, you know, simply do in a knee-jerk fashion.

I think we've got to think it through.

But I have to reiterate once again that we only have one president at a time. And I want to be very careful that we are sending the right signals to the world as a whole that I am not the president and I won't be until January 20th.


That is total nonsense about his cheeks turning red as blood. He discusses Iran at about 4:00.

[Edit] The video doesn't seem to be showing up and I don't know why.

YouTube - Part 2 - FIRST Press Conference - President Elect Barack Obama
 
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