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scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
Doctors do - their sage advice falls on deaf ears! :angry:
Miss Kitty
Meow
More pc fallout. :roll: We have become a nation of wussy, please don't go there and hurt my delicate feelings, make me feel good drones.
How about this...if you smoke, are morbidly obese, do drugs, drink excessively, etc., you PAY more for insurance!
How about this...if you smoke, are morbidly obese, do drugs, drink excessively, etc., you PAY more for insurance!
LuciferSam
Banned
Do you know him? I am puzzled by your post. What is STFU?
Don't know him personally but I've read about him before and in my opinion his tactics sound fanatical. I think he should stick a sock in it. Just my opinion. You may beg to differ.
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Gidget
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I 
DR NEWSOM!!!
Gidget
Btw, he didn't quit - he was fired.
Newsom: ?I was fired'
Former county health department director gives first sit-down interview since his departure
By WILL HOBSON / News Herald Writer
LYNN HAVEN ? Dr. Jason Newsom cleared his throat and looked at the stack of papers spilling out of a manila envelope on the kitchen table in front of him. He had talked for an hour about obesity in America, and had a mini-library of graphs, charts and journal articles to explain his hard-line stance on eating habits.
Then he delved into the reason he requested the interview: to discuss his resignation as director of the Bay County Health Department on May 8.
"Let's get this straight: I was fired. This talk about resignation, that was all politeness," Newsom said. "If your boss ever puts two pieces of paper in front of you, and one is a resignation letter, and one is a termination letter, and you've got two minutes to decide, you were fired."
The circumstances surrounding Newsom's exit are difficult to pin down, because none of his former superiors would comment. Deputy Secretary for Health Jean Kline, who Newsom said gave him the ultimatum via a conference call, has turned down several interview requests, as has Michael Sentman, her No. 2 who drove to Panama City from Tallahassee for the call.
Newsom, however, agreed to talk in late June after nearly two months of silence. If the timeline he gives of his final days is accurate, it brings into question his bosses' methodology in forcing him out.
?French Fries = Thunder Thighs'
Newsom, 38, is now a senior physician at the Northwest Florida Reception Center, a correctional facility in Chipley. The offer to resign was a courtesy, Newsom said, since it looks better to prospective employers than "fired."
It didn't soften the blow, though. Newsom thought this job would be his last. He said he often told co-workers, when talking about his goals, "Don't worry; we've got 30 years to make this happen."
In Newsom's two-plus years on the job, he banned doughnuts and other pastries at meetings, and removed regular sodas and junk food from vending machines, which he restocked with diet sodas and healthier fare, while waging a public relations battle against Gatorade, fried foods and basically anything with sugar. Some employees bristled at these changes and sent e-mails to county commissioners, Department of Health (DOH) officials, even Florida's surgeon general, asking for his removal.
"I had the support of the silent majority," Newsom said. "I had a small handful of people ... that were not going to toe the line."
The public first got a taste of Newsom's philosophies when he posted controversial messages on the electronic sign in front of the Health Department's 11th Street office. ("French Fries = Thunder Thighs" was an example).
Newsom didn't worry about embarrassing overweight people. He quickly pointed to bleak statistics about public health in America.
"Sixty-six percent of Americans are overweight or obese. There's no way you can go out and talk about obesity without the majority of people feeling uncomfortable, because you're talking about them," he said.
Bo Rivard and Michael Duncan, two local attorneys who also are co-owners of the new Dunkin' Donuts in Panama City Beach, met with Newsom on May 6 about messages criticizing Dunkin' Donuts - "America Dies on Dunkin," "Dunkin Diabetes" - that Newsom had run for a few weeks, along with similar signs attacking Kentucky Fried Chicken. Newsom posted the messages in response to ad campaigns by both companies that depicted their products as part of a wholesome family meal.
William Harrison, Rivard's partner, sat in on the meeting. Newsom refused to take down the anti-Dunkin' signs, but acknowledged that his bosses probably would make him take the signs down if they were called.
Harrison called Kline, while Rivard called Commissioner Mike Thomas. Both lawyers threatened to sue. Thomas drafted a letter to Newsom calling for his resignation, while Kline apparently took a more direct approach. She never called him before that final call, Newsom said, and never gave him a chance to explain himself.
Newsom's last evaluation, signed by Kline on March 20, rated him as 4 out of 5 overall, or "exceeds expectations." Newsom said the first hint anyone in Tallahassee had a problem with his tactics came when he was fired.
"I understood that I had to keep the Tallahassee people happy, and ... the county commission. What no one told me was I worked at the will of William Harrison," Newsom said. "That was a surprise."
Harrison said Monday all he wanted was for the messages to be taken down. He never asked for Newsom to be axed.
"That's absurd," he said of the idea that he was responsible for Newsom's departure. "I don't know Jean Kline, or the surgeon general. ... Whatever else is going on between him and his employer, I don't know about that. And I don't want to know."
DR NEWSOM!!!Gidget
Btw, he didn't quit - he was fired.
Newsom: ?I was fired'
Former county health department director gives first sit-down interview since his departure
By WILL HOBSON / News Herald Writer
LYNN HAVEN ? Dr. Jason Newsom cleared his throat and looked at the stack of papers spilling out of a manila envelope on the kitchen table in front of him. He had talked for an hour about obesity in America, and had a mini-library of graphs, charts and journal articles to explain his hard-line stance on eating habits.
Then he delved into the reason he requested the interview: to discuss his resignation as director of the Bay County Health Department on May 8.
"Let's get this straight: I was fired. This talk about resignation, that was all politeness," Newsom said. "If your boss ever puts two pieces of paper in front of you, and one is a resignation letter, and one is a termination letter, and you've got two minutes to decide, you were fired."
The circumstances surrounding Newsom's exit are difficult to pin down, because none of his former superiors would comment. Deputy Secretary for Health Jean Kline, who Newsom said gave him the ultimatum via a conference call, has turned down several interview requests, as has Michael Sentman, her No. 2 who drove to Panama City from Tallahassee for the call.
Newsom, however, agreed to talk in late June after nearly two months of silence. If the timeline he gives of his final days is accurate, it brings into question his bosses' methodology in forcing him out.
?French Fries = Thunder Thighs'
Newsom, 38, is now a senior physician at the Northwest Florida Reception Center, a correctional facility in Chipley. The offer to resign was a courtesy, Newsom said, since it looks better to prospective employers than "fired."
It didn't soften the blow, though. Newsom thought this job would be his last. He said he often told co-workers, when talking about his goals, "Don't worry; we've got 30 years to make this happen."
In Newsom's two-plus years on the job, he banned doughnuts and other pastries at meetings, and removed regular sodas and junk food from vending machines, which he restocked with diet sodas and healthier fare, while waging a public relations battle against Gatorade, fried foods and basically anything with sugar. Some employees bristled at these changes and sent e-mails to county commissioners, Department of Health (DOH) officials, even Florida's surgeon general, asking for his removal.
"I had the support of the silent majority," Newsom said. "I had a small handful of people ... that were not going to toe the line."
The public first got a taste of Newsom's philosophies when he posted controversial messages on the electronic sign in front of the Health Department's 11th Street office. ("French Fries = Thunder Thighs" was an example).
Newsom didn't worry about embarrassing overweight people. He quickly pointed to bleak statistics about public health in America.
"Sixty-six percent of Americans are overweight or obese. There's no way you can go out and talk about obesity without the majority of people feeling uncomfortable, because you're talking about them," he said.
Bo Rivard and Michael Duncan, two local attorneys who also are co-owners of the new Dunkin' Donuts in Panama City Beach, met with Newsom on May 6 about messages criticizing Dunkin' Donuts - "America Dies on Dunkin," "Dunkin Diabetes" - that Newsom had run for a few weeks, along with similar signs attacking Kentucky Fried Chicken. Newsom posted the messages in response to ad campaigns by both companies that depicted their products as part of a wholesome family meal.
William Harrison, Rivard's partner, sat in on the meeting. Newsom refused to take down the anti-Dunkin' signs, but acknowledged that his bosses probably would make him take the signs down if they were called.
Harrison called Kline, while Rivard called Commissioner Mike Thomas. Both lawyers threatened to sue. Thomas drafted a letter to Newsom calling for his resignation, while Kline apparently took a more direct approach. She never called him before that final call, Newsom said, and never gave him a chance to explain himself.
Newsom's last evaluation, signed by Kline on March 20, rated him as 4 out of 5 overall, or "exceeds expectations." Newsom said the first hint anyone in Tallahassee had a problem with his tactics came when he was fired.
"I understood that I had to keep the Tallahassee people happy, and ... the county commission. What no one told me was I worked at the will of William Harrison," Newsom said. "That was a surprise."
Harrison said Monday all he wanted was for the messages to be taken down. He never asked for Newsom to be axed.
"That's absurd," he said of the idea that he was responsible for Newsom's departure. "I don't know Jean Kline, or the surgeon general. ... Whatever else is going on between him and his employer, I don't know about that. And I don't want to know."
Here4Good
Beach Fanatic
but those people die sooner....maybe they should pay more when they are alive, and then their heirs get a rebate or something....
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
What's the difference between him and other employers who make their potential and current employees pass drug tests? He isn't telling employees what they can eat at home. "Fanatical?" not in my opinion. Maybe just concerned about the number one threat to Americans -- obesity and the diseases it causes.
I wonder how people would react if the person in charge of the Health Dept was giving away free hotdogs, lollipops, and fruit roll ups, which might kill you faster than marijuana .
Since you are voicing your opinion, I find your above statement rather hypocritical. Also, Dr Newsom was trying to do just that -- let people live. The foods which he was ranting about were foods that contribute to the death of many Americans.luciferSam said:
Bobby J
Beach Fanatic
When I was working in a high paced medical office many moons ago, I could not believe the problems people were having based on lifestyle. I also remember one Dr. getting in trouble for making a homeopathic suggestion to a patient. Maybe, times have not changed much...
Dr. Fray may have been "fanatical" in his approach but I bet he was also passionate in his beliefs.
Sometimes people can not handle the truth and get offended when the issue of losing weight comes up. Why is it ok for over weight people to come up to my wife and tell her she needs to put on a few pounds but people get offended when she responds by telling them they need to take a few off.
She struggles with the issue just like they do.
Dr. Fray may have been "fanatical" in his approach but I bet he was also passionate in his beliefs.
Sometimes people can not handle the truth and get offended when the issue of losing weight comes up. Why is it ok for over weight people to come up to my wife and tell her she needs to put on a few pounds but people get offended when she responds by telling them they need to take a few off.
She struggles with the issue just like they do.
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Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
The donuts are all politicks for Bay County, since one of the County Commissioners is the proud owner of the new Sunkin Donuts by the new Publix. Add a couple of lawyer donut shop owners and you suddenly have some firing power for "outrageous" comments. What happened to free speech? Someone just learning about this would think that Dr Newsom added calories and ingredients to the junk food labels.
Here is an idea to change our habits -- we add graphic images to labels showing feet being removed and arteries getting clogged, and scars from open heart surgery on these junk food drive-thru windows.
Here is an idea to change our habits -- we add graphic images to labels showing feet being removed and arteries getting clogged, and scars from open heart surgery on these junk food drive-thru windows.