Moratorium discussed for land use

[Mermaid]

FWIW, the plans for seaside include moving the street(wether speed mitigation is the reason i do not know) as well as the traffic circle at 395/30a as part of the new hotel plans.


jr

I'm confused. I thought 395 and 30-A are a "T" stop. How can a traffic circle be made there? That should be interesting. (But if it handles the traffic congestion I'm all for it!)

 

[John R]

I'm confused. I thought 395 and 30-A are a "T" stop. How can a traffic circle be made there? That should be interesting. (But if it handles the traffic congestion I'm all for it!)

next time you're down here, head into sandor's and have billy mcconnell show you the storyboards.


jr

 

[Mermaid]

next time you're down here, head into sandor's and have billy mcconnell show you the storyboards.


jr

Thank you, I will--it's within walking distance to our condo, which is why it's of such interest to me.

 

[SHELLY]

If you don't have something constructive to add, keep your smart ass comments to yourself.

Tail,

Sometimes my smart-ass comments are more constructive than even I'd imagined...they tend to get some chatter going and folks find out things from each other they never knew before (so I guess you can call them "smart-ass public service comments"?)

I usually don't waste time addressing prosaic comments, but tonight I was feeling a bit generous.

You're welcome.

Shel

 

[Smiling JOe]

Mermaid, round-abouts work just as well at a threeway stop as a four. I was unaware that one would be installed at 30A/ 395. The only problem I have seen with round-abouts is that people who are not used to them, don't know what to do, and they slow down the flow of traffic.

 

[beachmouse]

Mermaid, round-abouts work just as well at a threeway stop as a four. I was unaware that one would be installed at 30A/ 395. The only problem I have seen with round-abouts is that people who are not used to them, don't know what to do, and they slow down the flow of traffic.

I can think of at least three different threeway traffic circles in Okaloosa County. And Joe's definitely right about the problem with them being people who don't understand how to drive them, or how to determine who's got the right of way. I'd say only one of those circles works terribly well.

Putting one in an area where most of the traffic comes from tourists that don't really encounter them very often is going to cause a heckava traffic mess.

 

[Mermaid]

Mermaid, round-abouts work just as well at a threeway stop as a four. I was unaware that one would be installed at 30A/ 395. The only problem I have seen with round-abouts is that people who are not used to them, don't know what to do, and they slow down the flow of traffic.

The suburb north of Indianapolis, Carmel (pronounced CARmel, unlike the California town of the same name ;-) ) has gone absolutely roundabout-crazy. We are not used to roundabouts here in Indiana any more than are the drivers in Florida. However, it's an experiment that's worked. Here's an article:

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=4313335&nav=9Tai

 

[Smiling JOe]

I have seen them work well, and they can greatly speed up traffic at congested intersections like the 3 way stop at 395/30A if people know how to proceed, yield and signal.

 

[Beach Runner]

The buildings at WC are the same as anywhere on 30-A. Take a look up and down the beaches and they meet the 50-foot limit just like all the other condos.

Despite your very rude and critical comments to me and others, I'd like to make the following point:

According to the Walton County Scenic Corridors and Vistas Handbook, "The purpose of the Route 30A scenic corridor design standards shall be to preserve and maximize views of the Gulf of Mexico, to enhance the visual characteristics of the roadway corridor, and to eliminate roadside clutter." Despite the fact that WaterColor seems to have met the 4-story/50' rule, the massive breadth of the beachfront resort has done anything but preserve and maximize views of the Gulf of Mexico. WaterColor is a beautiful development, but many of us miss the views along that part of 30-A.

I won't address other related issues because (a) I'd need to do some research (as I said in the email that elicited your comments), and (b) I'd rather not get involved any more than I have in this incendiary discussion.​

 

[tailwagger]

According to the Walton County Scenic Corridors and Vistas Handbook, "The purpose of the Route 30A scenic corridor design standards shall be to preserve and maximize views of the Gulf of Mexico, to enhance the visual characteristics of the roadway corridor, and to eliminate roadside clutter." Despite the fact that WaterColor seems to have met the 4-story/50' rule, the massive breadth of the beachfront resort has done anything but preserve and maximize views of the Gulf of Mexico. WaterColor is a beautiful development, but many of us miss the views along that part of 30-A.


I won't address other related issues because (a) I'd need to do some research (as I said in the email that elicited your comments), and (b) I'd rather not get involved any more than I have in this incendiary discussion.

Handbook? You're reaching. You were talking about height. And what e-mail are you talking about? You're backtracking, Mrs. PHD. :roll:

I agree, too. How the heck do you think they were able to build a beach-front, multi-story development at WaterColor that set a precedent for SoWal (yes, obviously some places like One Seagrove Place were grandfathered in before SoWal became so popular)?

WC didn't set any precedent. Ever heard of Monterey, Villas of Sunset Beach, Sand Cliffs, High Pointe Resort, Mistral, The Legacy, The Palms, Villas Of Santa Rosa, Bella Vita, The Dunes, Walton Dunes, Dunes Of Seagrove, etc., etc., etc. ???

And what does any of what you're talking about have to do with the topic anyway?