seacrestkristi
Beach Fanatic
:shock: Maybe they should start the measuring in the underbluff parking 
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Naturewalk at Seagrove
- Thread starter Smiling JOe
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BeachSteelers
Beach Fanatic
SJ, I do remember the bribe offered by Mike from Olsen. I'm sure he got a nice lot, there's plenty to chose from( Good Stay that Way). I re-iterate my belief that Campaign envelopes stuffed with "Fifties" helped push this vote. I believe this is going to the next court level, so be on the look out for fundraisers as we continue to fight this Hideous Idea. As well as getting S. Brannon out of office ASAP. Shouldn't he be out already due to Ethics Violations.OOPs, paid fine for violations, Sorry, my bad, guess he's OK then?
My next B Day wish(coming soon), w/o giving it away, will be something like the Olsen Group and their Cemetery Plots being promptly used. Oh did people forget The Olsen Group, whom had a Destin City employee fired for not selling them enough burial plots. Nice People to do business with Walton Co.
Can't Seagrove Residents ask for reductions in Property Taxes since so many believe this isn't why they built or bought here?
SJ, notice in the Sun that the gave a promise letter for their concessions. Whats sad is this happens every day Nationwide. Elected officials whom believe it to be an Entitled Postion to due as they please. F the denstity codes...Raising it to 15 per Acre. F the public's opinions...Whatever We Do Want We Want. F the DEP...we love SeaWalls.Actually SW means SeaWall not S.Walton. F the Law... Covenants Smotherants. Traffic bad at 395/30A... couple hundy more cars and trucks SEND EM.
Yeah I know I rant but I can say I been a ton of places in the US and the World. This is a special piece of land. We can't keep letting developers spend their money wining and dining our elected officials. Why else would a former County Lawyer represent Olsen in this case. Corruption at its Finest. Or install a Stripper Pole in the County Annex cause there's some Whore's in there.
My next B Day wish(coming soon), w/o giving it away, will be something like the Olsen Group and their Cemetery Plots being promptly used. Oh did people forget The Olsen Group, whom had a Destin City employee fired for not selling them enough burial plots. Nice People to do business with Walton Co.
Can't Seagrove Residents ask for reductions in Property Taxes since so many believe this isn't why they built or bought here?
SJ, notice in the Sun that the gave a promise letter for their concessions. Whats sad is this happens every day Nationwide. Elected officials whom believe it to be an Entitled Postion to due as they please. F the denstity codes...Raising it to 15 per Acre. F the public's opinions...Whatever We Do Want We Want. F the DEP...we love SeaWalls.Actually SW means SeaWall not S.Walton. F the Law... Covenants Smotherants. Traffic bad at 395/30A... couple hundy more cars and trucks SEND EM.
Yeah I know I rant but I can say I been a ton of places in the US and the World. This is a special piece of land. We can't keep letting developers spend their money wining and dining our elected officials. Why else would a former County Lawyer represent Olsen in this case. Corruption at its Finest. Or install a Stripper Pole in the County Annex cause there's some Whore's in there.
JeanLafitte
Beach Comber
What is being done about Commissioner Brannon? Is someone planning to run against him? I know I've heard rumblings from people up and down the east side of 30-A about their dissatisfaction with this particular guy.
Can anyone give newbies to the county a quick civics lesson? How is the commission set up? Does each commissioner represent a district or are their at large seats? How long are the terms? And why isn't Santa Rosa Beach incorporated so that the north part of the county isn't unduly influencing development for developers?
Can anyone give newbies to the county a quick civics lesson? How is the commission set up? Does each commissioner represent a district or are their at large seats? How long are the terms? And why isn't Santa Rosa Beach incorporated so that the north part of the county isn't unduly influencing development for developers?
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
JeanLafitte, I could answer only a few of your questions, but I am only a Half-@$$ Activist, and I think I'm about 70% into this one already. I'm going to try and spend the rest of my time enjoying a bit of life. I''m passing my torch to BeachSteelers for the moment.
TooFarTampa
SoWal Insider
I have been wondering about this. Please feel free to post details here (or PM me if that is better) about any legal fund for this fight. Because I have to think it is winnable. Also, do you know if South Walton's state senator and state rep have been contacted? I'm embarrassed to say I haven't looked to see who they are yet.
By the way, whether it is a hideous idea or not doesn't matter. What matters is whether the commission is honoring and upholding county law, and clearly the voting majority of this commission is not in this case.
Beachmom
Beach Fanatic
I've wondered the same thing.I don?t understand where the money is coming from. The last time I drove through Nature Walk not a single home was under construction, and no one except one lonesome sales person was in the office. How can the developer undertake a project of this magnitude in today?s market?
It will be horrible if this property becomes a partially-completed, weed infested, abandoned eyesore.
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
BeachSteelers
Beach Fanatic
SJ, I wish I was up on those Questions. But I'm not. They're elected to represent the People of the County. Which it appears they have not. Did anyone say anything Positive about this Developement? We've been sold out. I gonna search campaign donations for S. Brannon. I have a hard time believing this is on the Up and Up. How many former County Employees work for them besides our former County Attorney? Who's invested in this project. Be back later with some answers.
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
I haven't been by to see. I somewhat predicted them to teat it down Wednesday morning, the day after the BCC meeting. They still have that other hurdle to jump, regarding not being able to rebuild after the structure's value is diminished by more than 50%, nor after the nonconforming business stops for a period of 6 months. It will have to be the quickest demo and build SoWal has seen of such magnitude. -- and it will have to be faster than the BCC has time to even make a decision regarding it. My guess is that they hope to get enough money tied into it that it will be difficult for the County to say no.
However, there is some precedence set by the Florida Fourth District Court of Appeal in West Palm Beach * in the case of Pinecrest Lakes Inc. v. Shidel, 795 So 2d 191 (2001), where Judge Gary M Farmer wrote, "if the rule of law requires land uses to meet specific standards, then allowing those who develop land to escape its requirements by spending a project out of compliance would make the standards of growth management of little real consequence." In this case, a trial judge had ordered the demolition of five buildings, costing the developer over $3,000,000 in construction and profits. Two of the five buildings were already occupied. Judge Farmer affirmed the order. Judge Farmer added, "It would allow developers such as this one to build in defiance of the limits, then escape compliance by making the cost of correction too high." (This might also apply to the temporary seawalls people built as permanant structures, here in WalCo)
I really think that NatureWalk may soon be in the hot seat regarding the Beach Club. Perhaps a smarter route would have been to have not offered condos, and simply made a small clubhouse with a few televisions, grill for food and bev, and a walkover for NatureWalk's owners and guests. Of course, that would be one heckuv an expensive property for a walkover. They could always try to sell it as four single family lots, and recoup close to their money invested. It will be interesting to see what happens.
*(source for case -- American Bar Association (ABA) Journal, July 2006)
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kathydwells
Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname
Teat, did you say teat? Well, from I what I have read here on this thread, I think those in the powers that be were sucking on something other than a teat at that BCC meeting.
I don't think I can bare the thought of the pictures that I am sure are going to be taken as this landmark comes down.
