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New big blue signs in SoWal
- Thread starter shesgottasurf
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Re: New signs on 30A designating communities
Gotta bump this great idea. The blank backsides are begging for something.
One question - since the signs are supposedly posted at the boundaries and one side is completely blank, why couldn't we have posted 1/2 as many signs w/ printing on both sides?
Gotta bump this great idea. The blank backsides are begging for something.
scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
Sorry to burst your diatribe bubble csoldier, but I can spout off about my dislike of ugly signs and still have a whole lot of room for "major" issues in my life.
Don't play the "life sucks for people" game with me, as I'll win! Everyone has a ton of baggage and trauma involving their family and friends, it's how you handle it that determines how happy you are.
Perhaps people are choosing to focus on the things they CAN change. Hideous blue signs are a nice distraction from alcoholism, cancer, alzheimer's, child abuse, unemployment, spousal abuse, etc.
Don't play the "life sucks for people" game with me, as I'll win! Everyone has a ton of baggage and trauma involving their family and friends, it's how you handle it that determines how happy you are.
Perhaps people are choosing to focus on the things they CAN change. Hideous blue signs are a nice distraction from alcoholism, cancer, alzheimer's, child abuse, unemployment, spousal abuse, etc.
NotDeadYet
Beach Fanatic
I have a vague memory of seeing some sort of sign presentation quite a long time ago, like several years ago, at a BCC meeting or two, and I think it was covered in the papers at the time. It is vague, but it seems to me like the design was first presented as a "family" of signs, and the ones on the beach got installed first, along with the one at the TDC building on 331, and those have been there a good while. I think the design is fine on the beaches, and at the TDC - something bold really does need to be there in order to not get lost. But I don't think I, or anyone else, could really picture what they would look like along 30A, nor the scale of the height of these latest signs. I also think the design was first chosen back before the scenic designation was actively pursued, and the TDC should have gone back to the drawing board and also sought current public participation. A lot has happened along 30A since the design was chosen.
And I agree with Scooterbug. It is good to focus from time to time on things we might actually be able to change. There are horrors enough in the world but taking action or having an opinion doesn't have to be limited to very "serious" matters. Not mutually exclusive.
but it seems to me like the design was first presented as a "family" of signs, and the ones on the beach got installed first, along with the one at the TDC building on 331, and those have been there a good while. I think the design is fine on the beaches, and at the TDC - something bold really does need to be there in order to not get lost. But I don't think I, or anyone else, could really picture what they would look like along 30A, nor the scale of the height of these latest signs. I also think the design was first chosen back before the scenic designation was actively pursued, and the TDC should have gone back to the drawing board and also sought current public participation. A lot has happened along 30A since the design was chosen. And I agree with Scooterbug. It is good to focus from time to time on things we might actually be able to change. There are horrors enough in the world but taking action or having an opinion doesn't have to be limited to very "serious" matters. Not mutually exclusive.
Minnie
Beach Fanatic
As a frequent visitor to the area who does pay the tax that paid for the signs, I find them just OK. Not horribly ugly but, certainly there could have been a more pleasing design.
I do not however think that vandalism is the answer to this concern and I have to wonder if the signs do suffer vandalism is anyone that suggested that as a way to deal with them, going to feel responsible.
I see in this thread, some adult suggestions, that make sense and hopefully the local authorities will listen and compromise. And honestly I see some "rabble rousing" that does not speak to me of reasonable options to the signs.
I will say that as a tourist, I did find them helpful in locating the various communities.
I did find them to be terribly high in the air at points. Not sure the reason for that. And I agree that color on them is a little intense. I do like the beach umbrella design.
And I can understand wanting to preserve the local beauty of the area but there seems to be some hostility toward tourists and believe me if the tourist goes away, you will get your isolated, uncluttered area back.
But is that what you want?
I do not however think that vandalism is the answer to this concern and I have to wonder if the signs do suffer vandalism is anyone that suggested that as a way to deal with them, going to feel responsible.
I see in this thread, some adult suggestions, that make sense and hopefully the local authorities will listen and compromise. And honestly I see some "rabble rousing" that does not speak to me of reasonable options to the signs.
I will say that as a tourist, I did find them helpful in locating the various communities.
I did find them to be terribly high in the air at points. Not sure the reason for that. And I agree that color on them is a little intense. I do like the beach umbrella design.
And I can understand wanting to preserve the local beauty of the area but there seems to be some hostility toward tourists and believe me if the tourist goes away, you will get your isolated, uncluttered area back.
But is that what you want?
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scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
I don't have a problem with signs to help tourists navigate 30-A, but it's not exactly a complex maze of interchanges, many lanes of high speed traffic, or confusing terrain. If they need garish 15' high signs to find their way along 30-A, I don't know how they 1) drove from their home to 30-A 2) passed their driver's test. As with the flag warning system, I think people are just oblivious or unaware, not that more or bolder signs are needed.
Some of the signs these current atrocities replaced were 3'x6' and the only info they contained was the name of the community in large letters. These new signs are much harder to read both due to their height and the print being 1/4 the previous size.
Some of the signs these current atrocities replaced were 3'x6' and the only info they contained was the name of the community in large letters. These new signs are much harder to read both due to their height and the print being 1/4 the previous size.
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