Obama the Oblivious

[Seaducer]

As of yesterday there were six million signed up for the ACA. That's six million more Americans with healthcare than the Republicans wanted.

the combination of deaf, dumb and blind, yet arrogant and sanctimonious,
that it would take to actually believe that is unimaginable outside of liberal
political hand puppets.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

the combination of deaf, dumb and blind, yet arrogant and sanctimonious,
that it would take to actually believe that is unimaginable outside of liberal
political hand puppets.

Yeah really, it's seven million.

 

[Seaducer]

yes dear, of course it is

 

[Leader of the Banned]

yes dear, of course it is

Oh you're just saying that sugar tits.

 

[poppy]

the combination of deaf, dumb and blind, yet arrogant and sanctimonious,
that it would take to actually believe that is unimaginable outside of liberal
political hand puppets.

It's true the deaf, dumb, blind and people with other pre-existing conditions are now able to get healthcare coverage. Paul Ryan and the Republicans want to return us to the glory days of underwriting.

 

[poppy]

Obamacare will not have the all important commensurate participation of the young. They don't need it and can't afford it. The cost shift to millenials won't happen. No one posting here knows who signed up....yet. My guess is a massive amount of medicaid/preexisting/those whose plans were already cancelled. Wait for the backlash when the IRS goes into pockets for the penalty. The entire fiasco was sold as a one size fits all lie with zero participation from the opposition. No one addressed the issue of out of control costs by providers. The Dems took the easy way out with a horrible program backed by forced participation. The party of "take" trumped the party of "no".

Yes because costs were so under control before the passage of the ACA. In 2010, the year the ACA was passed by Congress, Wellpoint and Anthem Blue Cross raised their rates by 39%! So much for costs being "under control".

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/02/12/why-health-care-reform-is-needed-wellpoints-39-rate-hike/

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/04/business/la-fi-insure-anthem5-2010feb05

 

[Leader of the Banned]

I think the right is reacting to the success of Obamacare the same way Karl Rove reacted to Obama winning Ohio in 2012. They would repeal Obama's birth if they could.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/06/snl-fox-and-friends_n_5099064.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000018&ir=Media

 

[Beachgirl]

I thought I would share our experience with the ACA/Obamacare/Romneycare.We are a healthy, self-employed couple in our 50s who had good individual coverage; however, even though we rarely go to the doctor, our premiums increased from $400 a month to $1200 a month over ten years. Because of pre-existingconditions (and believe me, everything is a pre-existing condition!), we could not change plans without losing coverage for these pre-existing conditions. After the law was implemented, our insurance was initially cancelled, but then reinstated.We were eager to see what our options were under the ACA. As early adopters,signing up via the web site and 800 # was an absolute nightmare, so criticism is well-deserved. We were able to choose from 84 different plans. The plan most comparable to our old plan was over $200 a month cheaper, however we chose a plan with comparable coverage but a higher deductible, which saves us $340 a month and provides tax savings since we are eligible to enroll in health savings accounts. Preventative care is included at no cost and there are no annual/lifetime payment limits. We don’t qualify for a subsidy, but they are available for lower incomes. If you don’t qualify for a subsidy, you can get access to the same plans direct from the insurer, which in hindsight would have been a much easier process given the rollout problems. So, for us, this law has so far been beneficial. We’ll see how it goes over time.

 

[Bob]

I thought I would share our experience with the ACA/Obamacare/Romneycare.We are a healthy, self-employed couple in our 50s who had good individual coverage; however, even though we rarely go to the doctor, our premiums increased from $400 a month to $1200 a month over ten years. Because of pre-existingconditions (and believe me, everything is a pre-existing condition!), we could not change plans without losing coverage for these pre-existing conditions. After the law was implemented, our insurance was initially cancelled, but then reinstated.We were eager to see what our options were under the ACA. As early adopters,signing up via the web site and 800 # was an absolute nightmare, so criticism is well-deserved. We were able to choose from 84 different plans. The plan most comparable to our old plan was over $200 a month cheaper, however we chose a plan with comparable coverage but a higher deductible, which saves us $340 a month and provides tax savings since we are eligible to enroll in health savings accounts. Preventative care is included at no cost and there are no annual/lifetime payment limits. We don’t qualify for a subsidy, but they are available for lower incomes. If you don’t qualify for a subsidy, you can get access to the same plans direct from the insurer, which in hindsight would have been a much easier process given the rollout problems. So, for us, this law has so far been beneficial. We’ll see how it goes over time.

you, your age bracket, is being subsidized by a combination of millenial income,tax penalties, and deficit spending. yes, I know how that goes. Ask anyone half your age how it feels.