OhioBeachBum
Beach Fanatic
Re: Low and slow
You got that right!Smiling JOe said:
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OhioBeachBum
Beach Fanatic
... and seize all of the assets of the parents - complicit by implication in harboring the "terrorist"... :shock:Smiling JOe said:Nope, not kidding. The Secret Service and FBI were alerted, and the girl was arrested as a "terrorist," which gives the govt the ability to break the US Constitution and hold the girl indefinitely without a trial or charge.Not that I think they will do it, but they can, although it is illegal according to the Constitution.
mothernature
Beach Comber
I've checked on the sprays--permethrin for mosquitos, dibrom naled for flies.
Permethrin was first marketed in '77 for use on cotton. In Oct. '82, the EPA allowed P. registrations to include use on livestock, poultry, eggs, veggies and fruit, a 500% expansion for the market. EPA staff pathologist, M. Adrian Gross, argued that P. presents an intolerable statistical risk for causing cancer." The EPA's official stance was that P. was not a carcinogen. Dr. Gross dissented and wrote "I should think that the risks of cancer of this order for a relatively new insecticide are unacceptable to any rational person." --- It is a synthetic pyrethroid and kills insects by strongly exciting their nervous systems like DDT. It's a suspected endocrine disruptor, immunotoxin, neurotoxin. 1989 classified as possible human carcinogen.
Dibrom Naled affects cholinesterase--check this one out. TOXIC to fish, aquatic invertebrates and high to very high toxicity to birds; highly toxic to bees. An organophosphate and suspect mutagen.
Homicide, suicide, genocide, pesticide. They all kill.
Permethrin was first marketed in '77 for use on cotton. In Oct. '82, the EPA allowed P. registrations to include use on livestock, poultry, eggs, veggies and fruit, a 500% expansion for the market. EPA staff pathologist, M. Adrian Gross, argued that P. presents an intolerable statistical risk for causing cancer." The EPA's official stance was that P. was not a carcinogen. Dr. Gross dissented and wrote "I should think that the risks of cancer of this order for a relatively new insecticide are unacceptable to any rational person." --- It is a synthetic pyrethroid and kills insects by strongly exciting their nervous systems like DDT. It's a suspected endocrine disruptor, immunotoxin, neurotoxin. 1989 classified as possible human carcinogen.
Dibrom Naled affects cholinesterase--check this one out. TOXIC to fish, aquatic invertebrates and high to very high toxicity to birds; highly toxic to bees. An organophosphate and suspect mutagen.
Homicide, suicide, genocide, pesticide. They all kill.
mothernature
Beach Comber
It takes just one drop of pure nicotinic acid to kill a full grown man. The pesticides may be diluted, but cumulative exposures add up to cumulative poison. At what point is it too much? Cancer? Still births? Parkinson's?
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
Can I have the higher ups arrested for attempted murder? Maybe I can throw a lawsuit at the bastards for giving me any future cancer.mothernature said:
Richard
Beach Comber
The person that oversees the dog fly spraying program in Walton County is Steve Sickerman in Panama City. He can be reached at 850-872-4250. Whether or not he sprays on any given day depends on a variety of factors including how much wind we are experiencing. But the big trigger is someone from Walton County Mosquito Control office does landing rate counts to determine if the number of dog flies in a given area are sufficient to warrant spraying. If the numbers are sufficient the Walton County Mosquito Control office calls Sickerman and asks that he spray.
There are strict guidelines, which should be followed, to determine the landing rate count. During the week of 10/17 to 10/21, when they were spraying everyday I asked to tag along and see just how the landing rates were being conducted. As you can probably guess rather than following protocol the officer was kicking bushes, searching around trashcans and generally working to try and find dog flies. Not just checking to see how many would land on him. I had not seen any dog flies in weeks but they were spraying everyday.
Sickerman says he would be happy to not spray but it is not up to him, but up to Walton County Mosquito Control. They can be reached at (850) 267-2112. He says the flies are blown in from dairy cow farms in the north. He also said the state would not allow spraying over state parks or over "Outstanding Florida Waters", like Lake Powell. He said he would contact Walton County about using correct protocol. He also said the season for this year is about over.
There are strict guidelines, which should be followed, to determine the landing rate count. During the week of 10/17 to 10/21, when they were spraying everyday I asked to tag along and see just how the landing rates were being conducted. As you can probably guess rather than following protocol the officer was kicking bushes, searching around trashcans and generally working to try and find dog flies. Not just checking to see how many would land on him. I had not seen any dog flies in weeks but they were spraying everyday.
Sickerman says he would be happy to not spray but it is not up to him, but up to Walton County Mosquito Control. They can be reached at (850) 267-2112. He says the flies are blown in from dairy cow farms in the north. He also said the state would not allow spraying over state parks or over "Outstanding Florida Waters", like Lake Powell. He said he would contact Walton County about using correct protocol. He also said the season for this year is about over.
mothernature
Beach Comber
We need to rouse the communty by education-- :clap_1:
If they aren't aware, then there's no concern.
The powers that be need to know we citizens are being poisoned against our will
and that it is a human rights issue. How about using safer alternatives like other areas of the country? There's an abundance of info available on the net. Let me know if you're interested in websites and/or organizations.
If they aren't aware, then there's no concern.
The powers that be need to know we citizens are being poisoned against our will
and that it is a human rights issue. How about using safer alternatives like other areas of the country? There's an abundance of info available on the net. Let me know if you're interested in websites and/or organizations.
Miss Kitty
Meow
"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature" I will call that number today...my husband, friend, puppy and self all experienced this invasion. I'd say go spray up North where the flies originate, BUT those citizens, farmlife and wildlife DO NOT deserve it anymore than we do at the bottom of the county! BTW...DO they spray this poison in the northern part of Walton County?
I have already written to the Bureau Chief and to Commissioner Cindy Meadows requesting that the aerial spraying of insecticides be stopped. This is the most effective way to influence this practice. It's very noteworthing that the State Parks won't allow it in their jurisdictional areas.
We have also noted the extremely low-flying aircraft over our house and the fact that there would be no chance of an aircraft recovery should that plane or its piliot experience problems. FYI, the most dangerous occupation on record is piloting an aerial cropduster. But back to the question of insecticides, it makes no sense at all to lock up all your cupboards in the house, only to have your children and everyone else in the family hosed from above while outside. We don't have enough money to save Oyster Lake, but we can finance the poisoning of other ecosystems via aerial spraying? Some perspective, please.
We have also noted the extremely low-flying aircraft over our house and the fact that there would be no chance of an aircraft recovery should that plane or its piliot experience problems. FYI, the most dangerous occupation on record is piloting an aerial cropduster. But back to the question of insecticides, it makes no sense at all to lock up all your cupboards in the house, only to have your children and everyone else in the family hosed from above while outside. We don't have enough money to save Oyster Lake, but we can finance the poisoning of other ecosystems via aerial spraying? Some perspective, please.