Policy on Personal Beach Chairs vs Vendor

[Born&Bread]

I was under the understanding that the beach service vendors bid the use of beach with the property owners/resorts?
And that bidding process provides a percentage of the vendors gross to the property owner?

Please don't quote me on this but I think different areas have different style contracts for beach service. My friends HOA actually does not get any money from the vendor. The vendor just sets up chairs at the request of the HOA to take up the private beach.

 

[Born&Bread]

Well it still seems odd they don't want to people on their beach, unless they can get paid. So if I sit on the beach without renting a chair, what happens?

That would be a property owner question.

 

[Jerry Lewis]

Please don't quote me on this but I think different areas have different style contracts for beach service. My friends HOA actually does not get any money from the vendor. The vendor just sets up chairs at the request of the HOA to take up the private beach.[/QUOTE

Quoted.

 

[Rita]

I would definitely go to Dune Allen Beach where old Florida still exists but still close to everything.

Nooo!

 

[Jimmy T]

I was talking to a code enforcement guy the other day. He stated it's not a vendor problem its a public beach vs private problem. He said on county beach they only use 50% and it is strictly enforced and followed by the vendors. He said the public not renting chairs can use 100 % of county beach. He said most of the time when you see a bunch of unrented chairs its on private property. He said as long as they have permission from the owners of the property they can set up how many ever sets they want. In some cases the owners want them to line the beach up to keep beachgoers off of their property. He said the vendors have it bad because they are caught in the middle.

With all due respect, youre wrong. It's definitely a vendor problem. Used to be, we could bring our umbrella and chairs to the nearest public access and find a place to set up whenever we felt like heading down to the beach.

Now:
1. 50% of the beach is occupied by vendor setups at 6am and all these setups are unoccupied.
2. Since Non-vendors only have access to half of the area that they used to have, they get out earlier also. By 8am, there is no space left.
3. Vendors will move your stuff if it's in their 50% and you're not around.
4. Vendors are now beginning to store piles of chairs and umbrellas at the toe of the dune. Imagine what would happen if everybody did this.
5. Vacationers are beginning to complain about the vendors.
6. The vendor areas are chosen without regard to any input from the public.

I could go on, but you get the point. This isn't getting any better and we need to address it in the near future.

 

[Born&Bread]

With all due respect, youre wrong. It's definitely a vendor problem. Used to be, we could bring our umbrella and chairs to the nearest public access and find a place to set up whenever we felt like heading down to the beach.

Now:
1. 50% of the beach is occupied by vendor setups at 6am and all these setups are unoccupied.
2. Since Non-vendors only have access to half of the area that they used to have, they get out earlier also. By 8am, there is no space left.
3. Vendors will move your stuff if it's in their 50% and you're not around.
4. Vendors are now beginning to store piles of chairs and umbrellas at the toe of the dune. Imagine what would happen if everybody did this.
5. Vacationers are beginning to complain about the vendors.
6. The vendor areas are chosen without regard to any input from the public.

I could go on, but you get the point. This isn't getting any better and we need to address it in the near future.

I am just stating what the code guy said. It is his job. He is on the beach everyday.He knows what hes talking about. Vendors have stored chairs by the toe of the dunes since 1976. You know why I know this because I was here then.

 

[FactorFiction]

I was talking to a code enforcement guy the other day. He stated it's not a vendor problem its a public beach vs private problem. He said on county beach they only use 50% and it is strictly enforced and followed by the vendors. He said the public not renting chairs can use 100 % of county beach. He said most of the time when you see a bunch of unrented chairs its on private property. He said as long as they have permission from the owners of the property they can set up how many ever sets they want. In some cases the owners want them to line the beach up to keep beachgoers off of their property. He said the vendors have it bad because they are caught in the middle.

Interesting. If they mean by private that it is a resort or condo property, this may be true. Many, if not most private beachfront owners, meaning individuals who own to the MHWL, do not want vendor setups beyond what is required for their renters. For example, if you stay at Seaside or Sandestin, they have their own vendors and they definitely set up wall to wall chairs and umbrellas. If, however, you stay in an area that is individual lot/homeowners, may of them only have whatever set ups are required for the renters in their single family dwelling, IF they allow vendors at all. Often, individual property owners provide chairs and umbrellas for their renter so that vendors are not permitted at all.

 

[Misty]

I am just stating what the code guy said. It is his job. He is on the beach everyday.He knows what hes talking about. Vendors have stored chairs by the toe of the dunes since 1976. You know why I know this because I was here then.

The code guy doesn't even think its his job to enforce existing ordinances...hence the majority of the problems.

 

[LarsAtTheBeach]

Please don't quote me on this but I think different areas have different style contracts for beach service. My friends HOA actually does not get any money from the vendor. The vendor just sets up chairs at the request of the HOA to take up the private beach.

That is peculiar.

 

[steel1man]

Due to unsettled weather forecasts with projected potential for storm surge, Walton County has extended temporary blanket authority to all permitted vendors to access the beach via public access locations for the sole purpose of removing equipment.

The blanket permit will be in effect from 12:00 p.m., August 30, 2016, until 5:00 p.m., Thursday, September 1, 2016.

Any vehicles used must be 4-wheel drive, licensed and insured, and must remain under 5 miles per hour while traversing the public beach.

For more information, contact the Walton County TDC Beach Operations Department at (850) 267-4578.