Principal Obama

[LuciferSam]

 

[TooFarTampa]

Change the messenger to our previous President and the left would have lost their progressive loving minds.

Oh, just chill. Not everything is about politics. If Bush (remember No Child Left Behind?) had planned such a speech, why would have there been an objection? Isn't it a great message for any young person? I know and you know that some kids don't hear such words nearly enough.

 

[Winnie]

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That gets a "Pants On Fire" rating!..

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From Polifact Truth-o-meter: ......................... The release, which we received via e-mail, told us to click a link to learn more about Obama's speech.

That took us to the U.S. Department of Education Web site, where Secretary Arne Duncan wrote that the speech was about "the importance of education."

"The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning," Duncan wrote. "He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

We asked the Republican Party of Florida for evidence that Obama intended to discuss health care, banks, automobile companies or taxes with the nation's school children. They couldn't point us to anything.

A spokesman said the party was particularly concerned about the study questions the department had provided. "The goal of these materials is to tell students why they should support President Obama in his overall agenda," said Katie Gordon.

"If the former administration had done something like this, the media would be handling this a lot differently," she added.

We reviewed the study materials but didn't see any mention of controversial issues, let alone any attempt to indoctrinate students in socialism. The pre-K through 6th grade materials said the main ideas of the speech would be "citizenship, personal responsibility, civic duty." The materials for high schoolers mention "personal responsibility, goals, persistence."

We searched previous media reports to see if former President George W. Bush ever gave a nationwide address to school children, but based on our search, it appears he did not. He did, however, regularly visit individual schools and discuss the importance of education with students.

We wondered whether we should give Greer latitude for legitimate commentary on Obama's speech. But he crossed a line when he said that Obama intended to discuss "plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies" and other policy matters not germane to education. That is factually incorrect, and the party could not offer any support for the statement. For raising the specter of socialist ideology and indoctrination, the party takes its claim to an additional, absurd level. We rate the Republican Party of Florida's statement Pants on Fire!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/02/republican-party-florida/republican-party-florida-says-obama-will-indoctrin/


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I believe you misread mtlinscomb's post. Your response from Politifact is disputing:

School children across the nation "will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President."

Everything in the original post is accurate. Well, I don't know if Ayers is smiling or not, but otherwise.

 

[Bob]

U.S. Department of Education Home Page

hey spamneck!

 

[mtlinscomb]

Oh, just chill. Not everything is about politics. If Bush (remember No Child Left Behind?) had planned such a speech, why would have there been an objection? Isn't it a great message for any young person? I know and you know that some kids don't hear such words nearly enough.

Great messages can be delivered in a number of ways. I for one feel there is currently an overwhelming liberal influence over the entire school system from preK through higher education. Lobbying to elementary school kids is out of bounds in my opinion...everyone is entitled to one, so just chill.

 

[mtlinscomb]

hey spamneck!

You libs can call me out for spam all you like. This will happen next Tuesday and you can gain all the information you need through the US Dept. of Education web site. I have posted the links to the programs. The donkey is a perfect symbol for such a stubborn group of geniuses.

 

[TooFarTampa]

Great messages can be delivered in a number of ways. I for one feel there is currently an overwhelming liberal influence over the entire school system from preK through higher education. Lobbying to elementary school kids is out of bounds in my opinion...everyone is entitled to one, so just chill.

I would agree that lobbying is out of bounds, but that does not appear to be the objective here. It seems pretty milquetoast. Yet people on the site you linked to are acting like he will be delivering a socialist message. What happened to "respect the office even if you don't respect the officeholder?"

This is likely to become a tradition, now that the technology seems to be available in most schools. I can see no problem with that whatsoever, no matter who holds the office.

 

[sunspotbaby]

Critics Decry Obama's 'Indoctrination' Plan for Students - Political News - FOXNews.com

 

[Winnie]

I think it's great for the President to speak to students about the value of education and perseverance! I wouldn't mind it if one famous person a month gave a brief pep talk to students. The more encouragement the better!

President Obama is doing a really good job on education issues!

 

[TooFarTampa]

I think it's great for the President to speak to students about the value of education and perseverance! I wouldn't mind it if one famous person a month gave a brief pep talk to students. The more encouragement the better!

Agreed ...