your are absolutely right and they know it. the problem with rita and will all due respect to her is that she and the rest of those blinded by political marketing will believe anything and everything this admin says. its indoctrination and its done towards the youth across the world. the prez went to every college campus in america and put things in their heads that were just "words". what he was saying than was those still dependant on their parents know better than those who actually make the world go round. the youth are the easiest target and the leftist mindset knows it and wont bat an eye at attempting it if it betters their chances of political gain and power. like usual, he will use brilliant words and propaganda to make these kids believe what he wants them to believe. this is simply over the top and the outrage is already rollin. if bush did this, he would have been called every hateful thing in the book. bravo for posting this. im betting the libs on this blog would never have heard of it until now.
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your are absolutely right and they know it. the problem with rita and will all due respect to her is that she and the rest of those blinded by political marketing will believe anything and everything this admin says. its indoctrination and its done towards the youth across the world. the prez went to every college campus in america and put things in their heads that were just "words". what he was saying than was those still dependant on their parents know better than those who actually make the world go round. the youth are the easiest target and the leftist mindset knows it and wont bat an eye at attempting it if it betters their chances of political gain and power. like usual, he will use brilliant words and propaganda to make these kids believe what he wants them to believe. this is simply over the top and the outrage is already rollin. if bush did this, he would have been called every hateful thing in the book. bravo for posting this. im betting the libs on this blog would never have heard of it until now.
theres a BIG difference between inspiring and propaganda. why you have such faith in this admin is beyond me. to believe everything you hear and are told is only doing a disservice to the nation and yourself. this is brilliant politics and its clear for the clear thinking mind to see. actions speak louder than words..........except the left
lerxst
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please clarify!
Hmm, this is interesting.. correct me if i'm wrong but Politi(fact) was commenting on the Republican's response i.e interpretation of the upcoming speech and agenda, not disputing what questions the Education secretary was suggesting. So I give Politi(fact) a Nuclear meltdown rating on my personal truth-o-meter.
And they shoud clarify that! watch as the "politifacters" run with this. Wrong emphasis.
How anyone cares to interpret the suggestions for classroom discussion listed there is entirely subjective. Like I said before, in this day of internet information, anyone can find out the truth for themselves apart from an allegedly unbiased non-partisan "Truth Panel"...if they want to.
Hmm, this is interesting.. correct me if i'm wrong but Politi(fact) was commenting on the Republican's response i.e interpretation of the upcoming speech and agenda, not disputing what questions the Education secretary was suggesting. So I give Politi(fact) a Nuclear meltdown rating on my personal truth-o-meter.
And they shoud clarify that! watch as the "politifacters" run with this. Wrong emphasis.
How anyone cares to interpret the suggestions for classroom discussion listed there is entirely subjective. Like I said before, in this day of internet information, anyone can find out the truth for themselves apart from an allegedly unbiased non-partisan "Truth Panel"...if they want to.
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mtlinscomb
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What I found amazing was the second I posted it the disciples were coming out of the cracks to label me spammer of the year etc. Quite honestly I think they are getting testy because they can't believe how fast their precious ship is sinking. There were so many times with President Bush that the right would get upset over such things as Dubai Ports, Amnesty, Border Security and so on, but I get the feeling these people will jump right off the cliff if President Obama told them to. Did the last 8 years of hatred for the President damage their ability to think for themselves, or is it just the nature of the secular progressives to be mesmerized by the pide piper?
TooFarTampa
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Why you assume I (or others here) don't think for ourselves is beyond me. I am ALWAYS interested more in what ACTUALLY happens than opinions of what MIGHT happen or what some people think is really in someone's heart. Just because I don't think he is a socialist doesn't mean I have utter faith in him. I have said this many times.
There are lots of discussions to have about very important issues and I am growing tired of all the hysteria and focus on little things. Frankly I don't understand it, because so far (unless you are a smoker or have a relative headed to Afghanistan) not much has actually yet changed for most of the country that can be directly attributed to this administration.
Winnie
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I still don't think the President is going to try to indoctrinate the young children with this speech. The public school system is already overwhelmingly liberal in philosophy. How could the President spread more propaganda than is already being presented?
The children will grow up. Hopefully they will have acquired critical thinking skills so they can come up with their own philosophy.
I hope future Presidents will continue this practice of encouraging students from a young age. It's a good idea no matter what the political motive.
The children will grow up. Hopefully they will have acquired critical thinking skills so they can come up with their own philosophy.
I hope future Presidents will continue this practice of encouraging students from a young age. It's a good idea no matter what the political motive.
Is this really the first time a US President has ever addressed children in schools? The only thing I am thinking is: what the hail took 'em so long???
Would I have wanted my son sit and listen to Dubya while at school with planned lessons before and after about his speech? I would have complained a bit... but of course every child deserves to know about his president, listen and participate and learn about our country and government. it is called EDUCATION. God forbid we would expose our children to our US President!!! help!!!
yes, of course, children can watch the President any time at home - in the presence of ther families where they can be "schooled" to think one way or another (rather than learn to think for themselves). But watching/listening to a Presidential speech delivered to students across the nation, at school brings a different level of learning and discussion. respectful discussion - where children may learn more about their country. more importantly, they may even learn to listen respectfully to friends while also having an opportunity to speak and really think.. and possibly grow a bit.
The topic of the speech is the importance of education.
I'm very sad to see on the internet the way many are viewing this speech - the words and ideas I've read from people opposed to the speech are really harsh. I'm just glad I don't have to live my life with those kinds of thought processes. the people who want religion to be part of education are the ones screaming to keep politics out. well, religion and politics are part of our country - we had better teach our children well so they can think for themselves later on. based on the writings I've seen by parents, these kids are going to need all the help they can get.
give kids a chance. trust 'em to watch, listen, discuss, participate, ask questions, and even answer questions about what is important to them. After all, education of children is the single most important thing we can ever do as a country. I'm talking about real education - not just preparing for a test. I believe education is for all - it really should not be so politicized.
Would I have wanted my son sit and listen to Dubya while at school with planned lessons before and after about his speech? I would have complained a bit... but of course every child deserves to know about his president, listen and participate and learn about our country and government. it is called EDUCATION. God forbid we would expose our children to our US President!!! help!!!
yes, of course, children can watch the President any time at home - in the presence of ther families where they can be "schooled" to think one way or another (rather than learn to think for themselves). But watching/listening to a Presidential speech delivered to students across the nation, at school brings a different level of learning and discussion. respectful discussion - where children may learn more about their country. more importantly, they may even learn to listen respectfully to friends while also having an opportunity to speak and really think.. and possibly grow a bit.
The topic of the speech is the importance of education.
I'm very sad to see on the internet the way many are viewing this speech - the words and ideas I've read from people opposed to the speech are really harsh. I'm just glad I don't have to live my life with those kinds of thought processes. the people who want religion to be part of education are the ones screaming to keep politics out. well, religion and politics are part of our country - we had better teach our children well so they can think for themselves later on. based on the writings I've seen by parents, these kids are going to need all the help they can get.
give kids a chance. trust 'em to watch, listen, discuss, participate, ask questions, and even answer questions about what is important to them. After all, education of children is the single most important thing we can ever do as a country. I'm talking about real education - not just preparing for a test. I believe education is for all - it really should not be so politicized.
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NotDeadYet
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this is the first of its kind. giving a speech to one specific school is one thing and frankly a good thing. this prez knows indocrination and has the best of them around him and thats simply a fact. look it up. to give a national speech is quite different. tell me, what is he going to teach these children other than make himself look cool which will ultimately give him approval of the youth. if he wants educational change do it, dont just talk about it. and dont just talk to the kids, but rather those who can make the difference.
but, you also mentioned your more interested i knowing what ACTUALLY happens. how is being determined that he wont indoctrinate make sense of that statement?