Religion in schools

[Bob]

I pray everyday - what's wrong with prayer? I am all about whatever a person does/needs for themselves is totally cool with me.

nothing if it does not occur in public school to the detriment of public education

 

[ShallowsFuzz]

Food for thought:

The Sheep and The Lambs

'Twas a sheep, not a lamb, that strayed away
In the parable Jesus told,
A grown -up sheep, that had gone astray
From the ninety and nine in the fold.

Out on the hillside, out in the cold,
Was a sheep the Good Shepherd sought,
And back to the fold, safe into the fold
"Twas a sheep the Good Shepherd brought.

And why for the sheep should we earnestly long,
And fervently hope and pray?
Because there is danger; If the sheep go wrong,
They will lead the lambs astray.

For the lambs will follow the sheep you know,
Wherever the sheep may stray;
When the sheep go wrong, it will not be long
Till the lambs are as wrong as they.

And so with the sheep we earnestly plead
For the sake of the lambs today;
If the lambs are lost, what a terrible cost
Some sheep will have to pay.

 

[woodworker]

 

[LuciferSam]

Food for thought:

The Sheep and The Lambs

'Twas a sheep, not a lamb, that strayed away
In the parable Jesus told,
A grown -up sheep, that had gone astray
From the ninety and nine in the fold.

Out on the hillside, out in the cold,
Was a sheep the Good Shepherd sought,
And back to the fold, safe into the fold
"Twas a sheep the Good Shepherd brought.

And why for the sheep should we earnestly long,
And fervently hope and pray?
Because there is danger; If the sheep go wrong,
They will lead the lambs astray.

For the lambs will follow the sheep you know,
Wherever the sheep may stray;
When the sheep go wrong, it will not be long
Till the lambs are as wrong as they.

And so with the sheep we earnestly plead
For the sake of the lambs today;
If the lambs are lost, what a terrible cost
Some sheep will have to pay.

The sheep are trying to escape slaughter. From their point of view they are doing the right thing. Are you calling Christianity a form of intellectual murder? If so we agree on something!

[Edit] By the way, kudos to the sheep who does his own thing. That's very unsheeplike. More power to you!

 

[Lynnie]

nothing if it does not occur in public school to the detriment of public education

OK - cool. Don't take this response out of context. It was a reply to:

"pray for no prayer."

Bob, I am one of the most respectful persons you will ever meet. And, quite respectful of public school, our systems as well as other belief systems.

Thank you and cheers to you!

Y'all argue with each other and please leave me out of it. That just exhausts me!!

 

[WhoDat1]

BTW, there are early Christian Bishops that were named Lucifer.

 

[LuciferSam]

BTW, there are early Christian Bishops that were named Lucifer.

I can't believe he would use the sheep as an example. It's a putdown to be known as a sheep who just follows along in today's society. The sheep who breaks away is a heroic underdog, much like the tortoise who beats the hare in a foot race.

 

[poppy]

I pray everyday - what's wrong with prayer? I am all about whatever a person does/needs for themselves is totally cool with me.

I say a simple prayer every day-

Dear Lord, please protect me from those who believe in you.

 

[woodworker]

Food for thought:

The Sheep and The Lambs

'Twas a sheep, not a lamb, that strayed away
In the parable Jesus told,
A grown -up sheep, that had gone astray
From the ninety and nine in the fold.

Out on the hillside, out in the cold,
Was a sheep the Good Shepherd sought,
And back to the fold, safe into the fold
"Twas a sheep the Good Shepherd brought.

And why for the sheep should we earnestly long,
And fervently hope and pray?
Because there is danger; If the sheep go wrong,
They will lead the lambs astray.

For the lambs will follow the sheep you know,
Wherever the sheep may stray;
When the sheep go wrong, it will not be long
Till the lambs are as wrong as they.

And so with the sheep we earnestly plead
For the sake of the lambs today;
If the lambs are lost, what a terrible cost
Some sheep will have to pay.

Don't worry - not everyone misunderstood it. Just those that are "quick on the jaw". :roll:

 

[WhoDat1]

I can't believe he would use the sheep as an example. It's a putdown to be known as a sheep who just follows along in today's society. The sheep who breaks away is a heroic underdog, much like the tortoise who beats the hare in a foot race.

You're confusing two parables.

Yes, it is heroic for a person to be a trail blazer and different. This is a "black sheep".

The parable of the "lost Sheep" is about a sheep that had LOST it's way and finds itself in danger.

Jesus's parable speaks of the good shepherd, who leaves the ninety-nine to find the one lost. The righteous became angry with Jesus because he ate with tax collectors, spoke with prostitutes and sinners. He embraced those that the "godly" (lower case) of his day shunned, or worse...stoned ( we all remember the story of the adulterous woman). Jesus said,(paraphrase) does the shepherd not leave his flock to collect the one lost sheep?

The parable was used to desribe God's love for the lost sheep. Yes, the shepherd loves all of his sheep, but he will leave them to find the lost one and bring him home. And once he is home he will rejoice!

It is shocking to me the number of agnostics and atheists that are here in Sowal. Which are you, LuciferSam? I, and the other nintey-five percent of the world, invite you to find God. Whether it be in Islam, Taoism, Buddism or ,praise be, the New Testament.

I already know you won't though. An agnostic can't find God the way a criminal can't find a police officer. He doesn't want to.;-)

That being said, there are no atheists in fox holes. I can tell you that for a fact. I've SEEN people find God as they lay dying. That's no way to do it.

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Todd