Salt Water in Eastern Lake

[heathernken]

Woke up this AM to about 3 feet more water in the lake than last night. YEAHHH!!! Salt water has finally returned. Hopefully the outfall will continue to allow salt water back in. High tide is a 2PM so we have a ways to go. Dock will likely be under water by then.

 

[DuneLaker]

Saltwater has been inflowing over the past several years, regardless of what you might have read or heard otherwise. There is a good inflow today. The inappropriate and tax money wasting opening that the county did last week with a large piece of machinery and public works personnel is being redone by nature. We should let nature decide the water level and opening. We should especially not let a person who built in a lower level room around original pilings complain about the lake level!

 

[TreeFrog]

Saltwater has been inflowing over the past several years, regardless of what you might have read or heard otherwise. There is a good inflow today. The inappropriate and tax money wasting opening that the county did last week with a large piece of machinery and public works personnel is being redone by nature. We should let nature decide the water level and opening. We should especially not let a person who built in a lower level room around original pilings complain about the lake level!

D#@n.

I was out of town last week, and thought the lake opened by itself. The storm has completely changed the new outlet they dug.

Did they open it because of a lake resident complaining? If so, that's not right. IMHO, if you live on a lake, build a dock on a lake, it's just like buying next to the airport. No complaining about the lake/airport. It was there before you bought/built/remodeled.

 

[Matt J]

D#@n.

I was out of town last week, and thought the lake opened by itself. The storm has completely changed the new outlet they dug.

Did they open it because of a lake resident complaining? If so, that's not right. IMHO, if you live on a lake, build a dock on a lake, it's just like buying next to the airport. No complaining about the lake/airport. It was there before you bought/built/remodeled.

Well, if you built on what is obviously a flood plain to begin with I don't think Mensa is gonna be calling anytime soon. ;-)

 

[DuneLaker]

Sorry you were disappointed, Treefrog. I was too. It was so close to a natural opening. And, you got that right, SWGB.

 

[TreeFrog]

Sorry you were disappointed, Treefrog. I was too. It was so close to a natural opening. And, you got that right, SWGB.

I've been here almost 4 years now, and it seems every time I think it's opened on its own, I later find out that either some jerk or the county opened it.

So, now it's full again. As of about 15 minutes ago, the waves have pretty much quit washing into it and are now building up the sand dam, instead.

And the gulls and sanderlings are patiently milling around waiting for the people playing in the outfall to leave, so they can peck around for a little bit of the bounty that has been washed up for them.

 

[cheesehead]

Yeah! About time. hope the guy on the beach doesn't bring in more sand and plug the lake back up.

 

[DuneLaker]

A lot of the sand that has plugged up the lake over the years is not from the guy so many have used as a poster boy of blame over the last year or two. Not defending what he did, but impact was minimal in comparison to other factors. Some sand has been from previous storms, some has been from the guy to the west and his non-native landscaping, a lot was when the county dug a huge channel and dumped tons of sand that DEP eventually made the county remove. A lot is from poor openings caused by the group that went out at midnight and illegally and relentlessly dug the lake out. So much false information has been repeated in many outlets. It would take a month of Sundays to go over the timeline and all the evidence even the last 10 years to fully vet this issue. But, from this point forward, leave the water level and the lake alone. It could be debated that if the county had not done the improper opening that it did last week, that we would have had a terrific opening last night and today. As it is, nature has erased the county's work demanded by a few, but the opening is not as good as it could have been.

 

[TreeFrog]

As it is, nature has erased the county's work demanded by a few, but the opening is not as good as it could have been.

Who do they call at the county to request that the lake be opened?
How is this reconciled with the dune lake management study?
How do we find out that someone has requested to open the lake?
Is there an evaluation process for their request? An open meeting?

 

[DuneLaker]

Who do they call at the county to request that the lake be opened?
How is this reconciled with the dune lake management study?
How do we find out that someone has requested to open the lake?
Is there an evaluation process for their request? An open meeting?[/quote]


1) As far as I know, "they" can call any number of people. In this most recent case, I am aware that at least public works was involved. Others could have been involved. An investigation would need to be made to determine other influence. 2) At the Coastal Dune Lake Advisory Board meeting last Thursday, some board members stated that they were displeased about this inappropriate opening and dismayed that it had occurred when progress was being made with the dune lake management study. 3) I don't know, but there sure seems to be a need for advance notice and public warning. With Florida's open meeting laws, I would guess any number of records could be requested from county offices as well as related state offices. 4) An open meeting, that is a great idea. I do not believe that it occurs at this time. There is some sort of evaluation process for a request. It is my understanding that this process failed during this opening. Official trigger point among other details were not implemented.