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Seaside Security & WCSO shut down the music
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Miss Kitty
Meow
Are the complaints public record? I am guessing, not, but what a field day that could be. ;-)
AAbsolute
Banned
It's unAmerican to make anonymous complaints. Especially about something as trivial as this.
AAbsolute
Banned
Unfortunately we HAVE to respond if the person requests us to. Even if there is NO crime. It is a waste of county resources, but alas, the High Sheriff is a political office and depends on votes.....
In this particular instance, there was nothing to enforce. So the deputies not forcing the party to end was right.
As far as code enforcement goes.......they are an ENFORCEMENT agency. How can the office holders of this county justify having an ENFORCEMENT agency with 8-5 office hours? Why not just close their doors for good, save the taxpayers the salaries, insurance, retirement costs, vehicle costs, building costs etc etc etc and train us (WCSO) on the noise thingamejigs and let us handle it? Hell, we're the only ones that respond anyhow. And for what? to tell the complainants, "I'm sorry sir/Ma'am, but I don't have the equipment or training to handle your noise complaint."
The office of code enforcement is just a place to hand out jobs for political favors. I like the post that said, and I paraphrase, "we outta push those good 'ole boys back".
And hey, lighten up and enjoy the damn music! For every minute we waste on your noise complaint (because you chose to live AT THE BEACH...HELLO!) is a minute we could be ON PATROL in the neighborhoods....you know...preventing thefts and burglaries and such.....
Remember you said that this January when "Notorious" the movie drops. I'll be pumping the Biggy in Watercolor.
Hope you jazz fans don't get all hypocritic on me when I pull out the original old school from the master Notorious B I G.
beachmouse
Beach Fanatic
We had to make some noise complaints against a (now) former neighbor over late night loudness when politely asking them to, say, please not celebrate baby Jesus' birthday by shooting off fireworks at 2:00am after midnight mass didn't work. We were told by the OCSO that the complaintant wouldn't get our names; they'd only be told that it was 'someone in the neighborhood'.
Which is fair because you don't want people to feel like they can't complain because they fear retaliation. Once the cop is there, they're the ones actually witnessing any alleged noise violation, not the original complaintant, and it's the cop who is, in theory at least, trained and taught to use equipment to judge whether noise is undr or above acceptable levels.
AAbsolute
Banned
Complaints should be presented to the offending party complete with the name of Complainor. To not share the name of the Complainor is liberal. The law should be construed strictly and conservatively.
If the Complainee retaliates they should be charged with a now more serious Complaint. To complain anonymously is to start down a slippery and liberal slope. In these anonymous scenarios the balance of justice is weighed against those who are not on the inside. This is an afront to freedom and the Constitution. While this issue is not paramount, it is the foundation of our free society and its doctrines.
If the Complainee retaliates they should be charged with a now more serious Complaint. To complain anonymously is to start down a slippery and liberal slope. In these anonymous scenarios the balance of justice is weighed against those who are not on the inside. This is an afront to freedom and the Constitution. While this issue is not paramount, it is the foundation of our free society and its doctrines.
Mark Partington
Beach Lover
wow
You havent lived until you stop at a light & watch the screws backing out of a guy's license plate while he's livin the dream. Out here in the weeds.....we Rock!!!
I'm getting out the 8 track.....see ya in a while Carrie.
You havent lived until you stop at a light & watch the screws backing out of a guy's license plate while he's livin the dream. Out here in the weeds.....we Rock!!!
I'm getting out the 8 track.....see ya in a while Carrie.
Creeklover
Beach Lover
If some one calls in and complains i d o not think thay give the info out but if the SO has the person complaining fill out a complaint form and they sign it and attach it to the report after the investigation is complete i do belive it is public record.
seabreezeradio
Beach Comber
One Point Four Million Dollars. That's how much the 2008 Seabreeze Jazz Festival brought to Walton County this year....according to the HAAS Center at the University of West Florida. It is unfortunate that several in the 30-A area have targeted music events and live music in general, as "noise" and not the fabric of art and culture that made South Walton what it is today. In a weakening local economy, an event like this does make a big impact. Just ask ResortQuest who has been tracking room nights and repeat business from out-of-town jazz fest attendees for the past 8 years. The event has introduced our area to thousands from all of the USA and Europe who either have never been to Florida or at least, this part of it. What's next.... no music at weddings on the beach or outside? The Event Ordinance is very vague and covers any gathering of people for a musical performance, regardless of size. Sounds like the script of the movie "Footloose"... but with "no music in the city limits" rather than dancing. How many events does it take moving out of Walton County to adjacent counties (with open arms) before "Joe the Plumber" understands and sees the real impact of the cultural and economic benefits? Have we become a county of true "fuddy-duddies"??