Senate-passed health care bill would cut deficit

[poppy]

Where in the world do you get these cooked numbers? What about the 190m+ that don't want or need it? The government is NOT your answer. They can't run a postal system or the Amtrack syste. They mismanage Social Security and Medicare right now. Geezz!! The number of citizens OPPOSED to this stuff according to Rasmussen Poll is now at 55%!! With less than opposed and don't care.

Getting numbers from the CBO is like trusting the late Ted Kennedy to drive you home over a desolate bridge at night. They were stacked numbers when the Republicans ran things, and they are stacked now by the Dems. Either party can make the numbers "work" in their favor. Stop listening to NPR, NBC, MSNBC, etc. Listen to Bloomberg TV if you want to get the REAL facts.

You don't trust the CBO but you trust pollsters. Do you believe each respondent was fully educated on the finer points of the healthcare bill when they answered the phone, or were they really just running through all the hysterical talking points when they answered the questions?

 

[30ashopper]

Weren't those against health care screaming from the rooftops when just 2 months ago the CBO came out with a report showing a huge deficit?

Folks the change that is coming will honestly be less scary than the changes you experienced around 14 years of age.

The current plans do, long term, run up the debt. Medicare cuts cover up to a point, and revenue will fluctuate and change. The overall cost of providing all these subsidies will rise.

The change that's going to come if we don't get our fiscal house in order *is* very very scary.

 

[Lynnie]

So now the CBO is just another propaganda machine? Since when? Yes, the Director is an appointee, but most of the rest of the staff are lifers, not the latest group of administration darlings.

So now we trust no one, listen to nothing, and wait for what - our next door neighbor to run the analysis and tell us what the numbers really are? I'm not going to rely on any news organization to do it.

CBO Director = appointed politician.
From the CBO website:

CBO has just released its preliminary analysis of the President's budget. This analysis presents CBO's assessment of the budgetary outlook for the 2010-2020 period assuming enactment of the President's policy proposals and reflecting CBO's economic forecast and technical estimating procedures. The analysis compares that outlook with CBO's baseline projections, which-unlike the President's budget-assume that current laws and policies that affect federal spending and revenues remain unchanged.[/B] A report that presents the full analysis, including CBO's assessment of the macroeconomic effects of the President's proposals, will be published later this month.

 

[Matt J]

CBO Director = appointed politician.
From the CBO website:

CBO has just released its preliminary analysis of the President's budget. This analysis presents CBO's assessment of the budgetary outlook for the 2010-2020 period assuming enactment of the President's policy proposals and reflecting CBO's economic forecast and technical estimating procedures. The analysis compares that outlook with CBO's baseline projections, which-unlike the President's budget-assume that current laws and policies that affect federal spending and revenues remain unchanged.[/B] A report that presents the full analysis, including CBO's assessment of the macroeconomic effects of the President's proposals, will be published later this month.

Oh now you get all technical. ~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Lynnie]

Oh now you get all technical. ~~~~~~~~~~~

Since the thread was just a test. Stay tuned for information on where to seek safety~~~~~~~~

 

[Bobskunk]

Not cutting deficit

These numbers don't help. For one, administrative costs have not been balanced against these numbers, and I have heard estimates of more than $70 billion annually. Also, collecting 10 years of taxes for 6 years of services hardly is a fair analysis. I am more interested in the next 10 years. Disaster.

 

[30ashopper]

These numbers don't help. For one, administrative costs have not been balanced against these numbers, and I have heard estimates of more than $70 billion annually. Also, collecting 10 years of taxes for 6 years of services hardly is a fair analysis. I am more interested in the next 10 years. Disaster.

Yep. Democrats are really pulling a fast one on this. Projecting cost and revenue out from 2016 shows yet another unfunded entitlement in the making.