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Hollibird said:
I have to say, that';-) s pretty freakin funny!
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Holli, glad you've got a sense of humor and are still with us. You're obviously a very caring soul. Cork does eat meat but doesn't wear fur or buy leather anymore. Haven't eaten veal in 20 years, even though I used to love it.

A long time ago, I came to the realization that I can't change the world and the causes that need support are overwhelming. I would feel like crap if I beat myself up because I couldn't do more. I contribute what little I can in any way that I think will help to various causes and I know that many people on the board do as well.

I used to be anti-hunting but when I learned of the treatment of agricultural animals, I began to understand why some people hunt. I still don't want to know my dinner but I respect others choice to hunt just as I respect people's right to wear the type of clothes that they want.

I do LOVE Marisa Tomei in My Cousin Vinnie on the appropriate pants for hunting, though! Cracks me up everytime I see it :floor:

http://he.metacafe.com/watch/186682/what_are_the_appropriate_pants_for_hunting/?langID=en
 
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Hollibird said:
Obviously if you need meat to live..so be it... but people that enjoy killing and skinning the animal have problems. If you use the entire animal for your survival that is one thing, but to skin a fox or chinchilla just to have a pretty coat and throw the rest away is disgusting. am I wrong?
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I agree with Holli. Throwing the fox and chinchella away is wrong! I will have to find my Fox Frappe and Chinnichanga receipes and post them.
 
It is now a city-wide ban on fois gras in Chicago because of the cruelty to geese.
 
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Cork's post covers a lot of it for me.

I am a bunch of contradictions when it comes to this sort of topic.
I love to eat crab but I won't catch it or cook it (have done so in the past, but no more.)
I have not eaten veal in about 15 years, don't eat a lot of red meat, yet am an unapologetic carnivore, I wear leather, inherited fur but do not wear it, and have nothing at all against non-trophy hunters.
I completely understand the cruelty of foie gras but man does it taste good.

Good read:[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Food-Nation-Dark-All-American/dp/0060938455]Fast Food Nation[/ame]
 
Cil said:
Cork's post covers a lot of it for me.

I am a bunch of contradictions when it comes to this sort of topic.
I love to eat crab but I won't catch it or cook it (have done so in the past, but no more.)
I have not eaten veal in about 15 years, don't eat a lot of red meat, yet am an unapologetic carnivore, I wear leather, inherited fur but do not wear it, and have nothing at all against non-trophy hunters.
I completely understand the cruelty of foie gras but man does it taste good.

Good read:Fast Food Nation
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Yes, I agree with Cork. When you do a little investigating, the cruelty to agricultural animals, and for some reason, expecially chickens - - jammed in those cramped pens and their beaks clipped down, etc. It is all so horrible. But I do eat meat too, but did quit the veal about 20 years ago. There are some things that seem deliberately too cruel for our tastebuds.
 
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