Some numbers on the Senate Health Care Bill

[poppy]

Cato's research on that ten year old study by the WHO didn't claim the U.S. was first in anything, it critiqued the methods the organization used to come up with its rankings. Liberals throw that study around (which FYI, WHO stopped producing due to inherent complexities in producing such lists) as proof we need a massive overhaul of our existing system. So I think Cato's analysis of their research is valid and useful.

No sheet, it's the first item after the reports title but thanks for the info anyway. As I said, it was just one of the sites I visited. You can agree or disagree I don't really care because whatever site I post you can post another with a different conclusion and I don't want to play the game.

 

[scooterbug44]

Is it the ping-pong or is it the amount of preventative care and alternative medicines?

 

[Lynnie]

I might be inclined to go along with some of the alternative medicines/ancient remedies, but admittedly am dubious on their level of preventive care and nutrition.

I just checked out the UNICEF site and the life expectancy for the Chinese there is 73. The USA remains at 78. I am skeptical of how their government reports to other governments.

 

[scooterbug44]

More than 95% of our health care dollars go to treating things after the fact - wouldn't be too hard for another country to beat that if they have a stable government and plentiful resources.

 

[LuciferSam]

I might be inclined to go along with some of the alternative medicines/ancient remedies, but admittedly am dubious on their level of preventive care and nutrition.

I just checked out the UNICEF site and the life expectancy for the Chinese there is 73. The USA remains at 78. I am skeptical of how their government reports to other governments.

Agree with you on alternative medicine. I think most of it is a sham. A lot of the accupunture claims back in the 70s are said to be way overstated.

 

[scooterbug44]

I was thinking more of using a combo of diet, nutrition, and exercise/therapy instead of pharmaceuticals and surgery.

Doctors tend to prescribe and cut and patients want a pill/surgery instead of making lifestyle changes that are just as, if not more effective.

 

[LuciferSam]

I was thinking more of using a combo of diet, nutrition, and exercise/therapy instead of pharmaceuticals and surgery.

Doctors tend to prescribe and cut and patients want a pill/surgery instead of making lifestyle changes that are just as, if not more effective.

Can't argue with that. Lifestyle changes can benefit most anyone.

 

[GoodWitch58]

some perspective on health care...

Florida pols have no incentive to change health care -- OrlandoSentinel.com

"And yet many of these same politicians trying to block health care — for the working poor, pregnant women, disabled people and impoverished children — get their own health care completely free."


this pretty much sums up the irony of providing health care for all...I wonder how many "regular people" who have been protesting any change in health insurance access, really understand this?

 

[Andy A]

To your chagrin, probably quite a few. And, in fairness, most are not protesting "any change", they are protesting the lack of useful change which is not apparent in the 2000+ bills offered by the house and the senate. Healthcare reform can be accomplished much more simply and affectively than what is now being proposed.

 

[30ashopper]

I was under the impression politicians were supposed to represent their constituents, not themselves.