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Some teachers may get a duty free lunch
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wilcogal1974
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AlphaCrab
Beach Fanatic
"Teacher"
"Well the dawn was coming,
heard him ringing on my bell.
He said, ``My name's the teacher,
that is what I call myself.
And I have a lesson
that I must impart to you.
It's an old expression
but I must insist it's true.
Jump up, look around,
find yourself some fun,
no sense in sitting there hating everyone.
No man's an island and his castle isn't home,
the nest is full of nothing when the bird has flown.''
"Well the dawn was coming,
heard him ringing on my bell.
He said, ``My name's the teacher,
that is what I call myself.
And I have a lesson
that I must impart to you.
It's an old expression
but I must insist it's true.
Jump up, look around,
find yourself some fun,
no sense in sitting there hating everyone.
No man's an island and his castle isn't home,
the nest is full of nothing when the bird has flown.''
LuciferSam
Banned
I couldn't imagine them not getting one. You have to be able to eat in peace. That's ridiculous. Also I never before heard of a student who didn't get at least a 30 minute lunch break and occasional study hall which was of course a break. That's immaterial anyway, because students aren't working for a living. I always thought it was mandated by law that all workers get lunch breaks. If it's not, it of course should be.
Go sub for a day
Anyone who disagrees with duty free lunches, take the time to spend one full day in a classroom and try to tell me this extra time is undeserved.
A teacher gets one planning period - 50 minutes maybe - to prepare lessons, grade papers, contact parents, straighten up the classroom, etc. and maybe hour after school is out. The rest they do on their own time. Can't they eat in peace????
My sister is the fastest eater I know. I always tell her to slow down, it's not healthy to eat so fast and she tells me she's used to eating her meals in about 10 minutes at school. That's all the time she has.
Those of you who think teachers have it made haven't been in a classroom for a very long time.
Anyone who disagrees with duty free lunches, take the time to spend one full day in a classroom and try to tell me this extra time is undeserved.
A teacher gets one planning period - 50 minutes maybe - to prepare lessons, grade papers, contact parents, straighten up the classroom, etc. and maybe hour after school is out. The rest they do on their own time. Can't they eat in peace????
My sister is the fastest eater I know. I always tell her to slow down, it's not healthy to eat so fast and she tells me she's used to eating her meals in about 10 minutes at school. That's all the time she has.
Those of you who think teachers have it made haven't been in a classroom for a very long time.
This is simply offensive to all teachers.
I'm astounded at the lack of respect for the educators in this country. It's appalling.
I'm astounded at the lack of respect for the educators in this country. It's appalling.
Bob Wells
Beach Fanatic
My suggestion SB, is rather than being unsympathetic, attempt to be empathetic and think about how you or one of your family members would feel without the opportunity to eat or take a break. As to whether they rotate lunch room duty or if the have a planning period, but because of class sizes there are some instructors that are giving up their planning period to teach more classes. So my opinion which may not be in line with yours, which I apologize for in advance, teachers should have the opportunity for a kid free lunch and should have their planning periods, which may be used for parent teacher conferences. They are not compensated near enoughfor the hours they work after school, the continuing education they must complete and the total disregard parents seem to have about a teachers time. That is just my opinion and because I pay their salaries I will gladly say so and will be willing to pay more and I have no kids in school.
Here4Good
Beach Fanatic
I seriously wish that those of you who think that teachers have it made would sub in the schools for one week. Just a week. Talk to the parents who spend a lot of time volunteering in the schools - they respect the teachers.
My father was a beat policeman for 35 years in a good sized midwestern city, and my husband taught middle school for years. My father told my husband, "Man, you've got guts. I wouldn't do that for a million dollars."
I can't get over the bizarre resentment over degreed professionals who devote themselves to the future of the country being able to earn a professional salary and be treated like human beings. To advance in education, you have to have a Masters or PhD. You have to have years of experience. You work 5-6 hours a day dealing with 25 distinct little personalities that may have problems that would daunt an adult. You work another 2-3 hours a day preparing, answering calls, having conferences. If you care enough to be a coach or sponsor the yearbook, you work another 3-5 hours a day at that, for a whopping extra $500-$1,000 a year. Your reward, after getting an edvanced degree and working for 20 years, is a job that pays about what a department manager at Target makes, and being made to feel that you should be grateful you're not still paid in eggs and tomatoes that the parents bring in from their garden.
If you think that the pension system is not right, then remember that ALL state employees are under this system, including the judges and commissioners of whatever, and lobby to get it changed. Don't blame it all on the teachers.
So, all they are asking is for a lunch break. Seriously, that's too much to ask?
/*rant off*/
My father was a beat policeman for 35 years in a good sized midwestern city, and my husband taught middle school for years. My father told my husband, "Man, you've got guts. I wouldn't do that for a million dollars."
I can't get over the bizarre resentment over degreed professionals who devote themselves to the future of the country being able to earn a professional salary and be treated like human beings. To advance in education, you have to have a Masters or PhD. You have to have years of experience. You work 5-6 hours a day dealing with 25 distinct little personalities that may have problems that would daunt an adult. You work another 2-3 hours a day preparing, answering calls, having conferences. If you care enough to be a coach or sponsor the yearbook, you work another 3-5 hours a day at that, for a whopping extra $500-$1,000 a year. Your reward, after getting an edvanced degree and working for 20 years, is a job that pays about what a department manager at Target makes, and being made to feel that you should be grateful you're not still paid in eggs and tomatoes that the parents bring in from their garden.
If you think that the pension system is not right, then remember that ALL state employees are under this system, including the judges and commissioners of whatever, and lobby to get it changed. Don't blame it all on the teachers.
So, all they are asking is for a lunch break. Seriously, that's too much to ask?
/*rant off*/
30ashopper
SoWal Insider
Not getting a full lunch break during a day's work (often in the private sector this is a completely voluntary act) is common. This is just silly. Plus why do teachers need a union to negotiate something like this? I mean, jeez, just sit down with the school administration and work something out. If teachers are having to call in unions to work simple issues like this out, it's clear our school system is in much worse shape than anybody thought.
Here4Good
Beach Fanatic
In the private sector, it is a completely voluntary act. You want to eat a sandwich at your desk and keep working, it's your choice. You don't have 25 ten-year-olds that you are responsible for at the same time.
I have worked in the private sector for over 30 years, and if a supervisor ever attempted to write me up for refusing to work through lunch, HR would have torn the reprimand up and thrown it back at them, saying "Never do this again.".
As for negotiating it individually, that just doesn't happen when you work for the state. Everybody has to be treated exactly the same, if you are on the same pay grade. That's the state's HR policy, enacted to protect them against discrimination issues, not a union issue.
I have worked in the private sector for over 30 years, and if a supervisor ever attempted to write me up for refusing to work through lunch, HR would have torn the reprimand up and thrown it back at them, saying "Never do this again.".
As for negotiating it individually, that just doesn't happen when you work for the state. Everybody has to be treated exactly the same, if you are on the same pay grade. That's the state's HR policy, enacted to protect them against discrimination issues, not a union issue.