Matt J
SWGB
Does that make it a photo finish to see who got the ticket for failure to come to a complete stop?
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Something that ticked me off-bicycle related
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Does that make it a photo finish to see who got the ticket for failure to come to a complete stop?
scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
The way I read Sj's posts is that a bicycle (or group of bicyclists) can ride down the center of a 30-A lane as long as they are going the posted speed limit. If they are going less than the posted speed limit, they must ride one abreast on the side of the road.
The reason people biatch about cyclists on 30-A is because those cyclists don't give others the same courtesy and consideration they demand. :roll:
Just like w/ kids in restaurants, I don't hear/utter complaints about well behaved and courteous cyclists. I hear about cyclists hogging the road & disrupting normal traffic flow for extended periods of time, blowing through stop signs, yelling at and flipping off drivers for perceived slights etc. :angry:
There are some great local & visiting cyclists who follow all the rules of the road, use lights to make themselves more visible when it is foggy/dim out, stop at signs, etc. They choose to ride on the road instead of the path for a variety of logical reasons (I have been edumacated about these). Then there are the bikers (who I am sure are also rude SOBs when not on a bike) who ruin it for others with their behavior.
I love seeing people out enjoying the outdoors (and an attractive man in bike shorts sure doesn't ruin my day) and think we should encourage it with a network of well maintained bike paths, but bikers also need to be realistic and considerate about the fact that they are riding on a major traffic artery - no matter how scenic it is!
The reason people biatch about cyclists on 30-A is because those cyclists don't give others the same courtesy and consideration they demand. :roll:
Just like w/ kids in restaurants, I don't hear/utter complaints about well behaved and courteous cyclists. I hear about cyclists hogging the road & disrupting normal traffic flow for extended periods of time, blowing through stop signs, yelling at and flipping off drivers for perceived slights etc. :angry:
There are some great local & visiting cyclists who follow all the rules of the road, use lights to make themselves more visible when it is foggy/dim out, stop at signs, etc. They choose to ride on the road instead of the path for a variety of logical reasons (I have been edumacated about these). Then there are the bikers (who I am sure are also rude SOBs when not on a bike) who ruin it for others with their behavior.
I love seeing people out enjoying the outdoors (and an attractive man in bike shorts sure doesn't ruin my day) and think we should encourage it with a network of well maintained bike paths, but bikers also need to be realistic and considerate about the fact that they are riding on a major traffic artery - no matter how scenic it is!
Smiling JOe
SoWal Expert
Sounds like you correctly understand part of the laws in my post. The law which is missing is the exception, which is specifically noted as, "or substandard-width lane, that makes it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge. For the purposes of this subsection, a "substandard-width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane." Due to the narrow width of most of 30A, a cyclist could legally ride down the center of the lane at any speed. However, that is a good way to get killed by irate motorist, and not something I do, except when approaching stop signs or to turn left.
John R
needs to get out more
like the bikers or not, it is the law to give them 36" clearance on the road.
wrobert
Beach Fanatic
Man I see what you guys are talking about. I was in south Walton today and parents letting their kids dart in and out of traffic in those subdivisions, riding 4 across and going at a crawl. People passing bikes on 30A with no concept that cars are heading in the other direction. I should have known it was going to be a bad day when a SUV almost blew the red light at 331. I guess people are just all excited about the water. But I do not think that should be an excuse. No way do they act that way at home. Do they think the laws of physics and society are suspended when they go on vacation?
jodiFL
Beach Fanatic
Guess we should have warned you about that.... happens alot. And you NEVER,EVER pull out when the light turn greens at either 283/BayDr. or 395.. (well make that ANY intersection on 98) without first observing whether or not the drivers in both directions even have the remotest concept that they are coming up on a light. Or unless the front 2 have stopped at the light and will be hit before you are. It is so bad that my kids and I now make bets on how many from each direction will blow thru it.
wrobert
Beach Fanatic
Sheesh! And they are just as bad in DeFuniak. You are correct, I never pull out at a light without making sure everyone stops first.
Miss Critter
Beach Fanatic
Yes.
bluemtnrunner
Beach Fanatic
Don't go straight across 395 without making sure some bozo is not about to turn onto 98 right in front of you. Happens nearly everytime I am heading across from Point Washington. THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW!!!!
ASH
Beach Fanatic
That happens to me all the time over at 393. They think the turning lane is the only lane going on a green light. And then they flip me off when I slam on my brakes and toss my arms in the air like I was in the wrong. When I have someone in turn lane across from me, I actually use both feet on the pedals to give me a better reaction time. 