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WileCoyote

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Another Bunch of out of touch elected officials.

At the Dec. 3 South Walton Fire District Fire Board meeting, Fire Commissioner Brian Christenson suggested using money still in the budget to recognize and reward full-time employees.

The $19,899.49 was budgeted in 2007 for a new employee that won’t be hired until next year.

Christenson suggested a $200 Christmas bonus, for a total of $19,800.

In the past, the fire district has not given holiday bonuses. Last year, each employee received a $25 gift certificate in lieu of the annual Christmas party.

“Firefighters do everything to make sure no one is left out during the holidays,” Commissioner Donna Crawford said. “They are paid well, but they are still civil service and don’t get paid enough. I would like to see the firefighters and staff have a nice Christmas.”

Fire Commissioner Jack Abbit, who had worked with the firefighters during contract negotiations, expressed concern that the bonuses might set a precedent.

Fire board attorney Allan Ramey suggested the board could be creating a problem and advised the fire chief to run it by the labor attorneys. He also said when the Walton County Taxpayers Association, a local watchdog group, look at this, they might ask, “Are you serving the people who elected us?”

Abbit advised the board to step back and do something less. He agreed with Ramey “that the Taxpayers Association might come in and say we gave this money away.”

Although Commissioner Mike Stange said he would love to give a $200 bonus, that was definitely setting a precedent. He suggested a $100 gift certificate.

Fire Chief Rick Talbert said whether it was a $25 gift certificate or the suggested $100, it was all in the delivery. He asked the board’s permission to draft a letter that explained where the money came from.

The motion to give a $100 gift certificate to all annual full-time employees as an end of year holiday gift was unanimously approved, subject to the approval of the labor attorneys.
 
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Personally, I don't see a problem here. :idontno:
I think they should have given them the whole $200. They really don't get paid enough, imho.
 
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Please remember these are starting salaries plus benefits.

Effective October 1, 2007 FF/EMT starting salary is $38,398 and FF/PM starting salary is $44,121 with additional incentives available.
 
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I'm certainly not against Xmas bonuses, but I do question why people have the idea that one must zero out the bank account.

Why wouldn't we save that money for a future budgetary shortfall - overtime costs for fighting a forest fire perhaps, equipment repair/replacement etc. :idontno: I am sure there is something they have asked for in the past that there wasn't money in the budget for.

Even banking the $20k for a year in a money market account could earn them several hundred dollars in interest that they could use for a future scholarship or charity.
 
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Please remember these are starting salaries plus benefits.

Effective October 1, 2007 FF/EMT starting salary is $38,398 and FF/PM starting salary is $44,121 with additional incentives available.
Sorry, but I keep thinking about the former Mosquito Control Director making a salary of well more than $100,000.

A note of quick math brings the number of full time FFs to a total of just under 100. Do we really have that many in WalCo? I have no idea, but think that some of those FFs are voluntary, like in and around Freeport, Paxton, etc. That number seems high to me.

I also cannot help but think about the Fire Commissioners getting to take something like $400 per month from the County to pay for their health insurance. :shock: That is about four times the cost of my monthly health insurance. Are these the people who are concerned with giving out a once a year bonus of a mere $200 to the dedicated people who save the lives of our friends and family, as well as save property from millions of dollars of damage, all while putting their own lives on the line? That math doesn't add up on my calculator. I say that if the Walton County Tax Payers Association has a problem with giving the bonuses, they need to reconsider the benefits packages of the many commissioners, director, and officers in Walton County. Let's at least have some semblance of balance.
 
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I'm certainly not against Xmas bonuses, but I do question why people have the idea that one must zero out the bank account.

Why wouldn't we save that money for a future budgetary shortfall - overtime costs for fighting a forest fire perhaps, equipment repair/replacement etc. :idontno: I am sure there is something they have asked for in the past that there wasn't money in the budget for.

Even banking the $20k for a year in a money market account could earn them several hundred dollars in interest that they could use for a future scholarship or charity.
All are excellent points. The reason boils down to one -- if they don't use it, they lose it in next year's budget. Maybe it really doesn't work that way, but they all pretend it does.
 
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All work full-time for South Walton Fire District.

Why a 400% increase over last year ? Why a bonus at all ?

The BCC gives a Turkey.

You will loose your money if you think the BCC is above the SWFD in benefits and salaries for the North Walton Fire District.
 
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Which is why I suggested they use it to buy equipment or create a scholarship fund while they have the $. I can see a future budget meeting where they get less $ because "they'll just use it on bonuses like last time."

I'd rather we trim some fat from other budgets & salaries (rhymes w/ taquito) if we feel folks are underpaid/compensated.

Do they have higher insurance rates because they are in a high-risk/prone to injury profession?
 
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Their benefits are 100% paid by the district I think. I'm sure the premiums are higher than a McDonald's employee.

Don't get me wrong, they are in a hazardous job - but that starting salary is substantial amoung "new hires" in Walton County.

It's reeally about how easy it is to "give away other peoples money". Makes them feel good. The commissioners receive a slary of $500 per month or they can opt into the benefits package. Not bad for 1-2 hours per month.
 
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All work full-time for South Walton Fire District.

Why a 400% increase over last year ? Why a bonus at all ?

The BCC gives a Turkey.

You will loose your money if you think the BCC is above the SWFD in benefits and salaries for the North Walton Fire District.

never said they were.

As for giving employees a bonus? You are right. Let's get morale really low, and take away there existing bonus. Employees surely can't expect one this year, just because they got one last year. They'd be crazy to think that way. It's a bonus, right? Not something that should be expected. It's not like low morale has any effect on employees. It doesn't make them have resentment toward the company, or feel like they can steal and justify the theft as something which they deserved. Let's tighten up the ship, and tell these @ssholes to find another job if they don't like the one they have. That will fix everything and make everyone very happy about risking their own life for the safety of others. What a great way to say, Merry F'ing Christmas. I love it.

(insert smiley with tongue in cheek). ;-)
 
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