St. Joe Big Box development comes to SoWal

[passin thru]

How so? Sales taxes which are now being sent to Okaloosa or Bay Counties will now stay in SRB. The improvement of the vacant land will generate additional RE taxes to the benefit of the county. Also seems like this will create more jobs; perhaps lower paying jobs but jobs & new consumers nonetheless.




lower labor costs = lower prices; which i like b/c then i can spend my savings at other local places. & the profits can easily come back to the state & your pocket via dividends.



Huh? & the latter is referred to as Darwinism or creative destruction. if you want to support local retailers please feel free to do so; but i'm going for best value

Dude, you're "thinking" as blindly as Walter does in your favorite film.

Instead of going for what you believe to be the best value, next time buy or order a copy of The Big Lebowski from the record store in Seaside .... and while you're there, also order a copy of Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price . The price on the item is usually not the true, whole price to society & local community.

 

[Smiling JOe]

The property north of 98 is not a part of Topsail. There's a parcel in that area that was designated Conservation Easement in the Settlement agreement between St. Joe and the State. From what I remember . St. Joe owns the property but it is held in a Conservation Easment, they can't do anything with it. The County maps had the property mislabeled for a while, not sure if it's been corrected.

Thanks. Looking back at the maps to further investigate, I realize that I made an error in labeling the map which I posted above. Attached is a corrected version, according to the WalCo Property Appraiser's site, which you note, may be incorrect. The parcels which are adjacent to this JOE property and appear to be state owned with a land use of "Town Center," are:
30-2S-20-33230-000-001B
and
25-2S-21-42000-016-0000

 

[beachmouse]

So it's the parcel just to the west of where Albertson's has planned on building about 5ish years back? Seems like the general plan for that area had been larger scale commercial along US 98 for a while.

This is probably going to end up passing, so the thing I'd start focusing on is requiring a serious buffer area between the commercial and the residential, at least as much as there is between Kelly Plantation and the Marshall's/Fresh Market shopping area in Destin.

 

[Leo Casas]

how about taking another approach? the link takes you to a repair kit for sub-urban sprawl. Here we can do things right perhaps even before breaking ground! Urban Sprawl Repair Kit: Repairing The Urban Fabric ? ReBurbia

http://www.re-burbia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/UrbanSprawlRepairKIT.jpg

http://www.re-burbia.com/wp-content/uploads/2932/SprawRepairToolkitBuildingTypes_Page_1.jpg

 

[Neocrete]

how about taking another approach? the link takes you to a repair kit for sub-urban sprawl. Here we can do things right perhaps even before breaking ground! Urban Sprawl Repair Kit: Repairing The Urban Fabric ? ReBurbia

http://www.re-burbia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/UrbanSprawlRepairKIT.jpg

http://www.re-burbia.com/wp-content/uploads/2932/SprawRepairToolkitBuildingTypes_Page_1.jpg

Leo
Thanks so much for your post. That is exactly what I was thinking but the pictures explain it best. This type of development is what Keith Howard has done at Grand Blvd. With the exception of Publix, the shops are pushed forward to the road with a common "market street" and most parking is behind the development creating a larger buffer. He has also included common space and wonderful aesthetics.

This will be the first major commercial project from Santa Rosa Beach to Inlet Beach. I hope that we can work together with Joe and the county to set a good precedent for the community.

Thanks again for the insightful information.

 

[Neocrete]

Major commercial development in SoWal to be approved?

See prior post in Real Estate Forum - St Joe Big Box comes to So Wal
Also view Miller - McCune report posted on 8/24/09 in Real Estate Forum.

Walton county commissioners will review the proposed development @ 5:00 pm @ the Walton County courthouse in Defuniak Springs on Tuesday August 25th. Plan to attend or contact you commissioner.

 

[Matt J]

As much as I would love to see South Walton just freeze development and then listen to everyone complain the sky rocketing real estate prices I do have to say that this plan seems to fall right into the Transect planning model. I've been to two presentations and it seems to me that stepping from single family to multi family to commercial is right in line. Perhaps the steps aren't spaced as far enough apart, but it follows the curve pretty well. The only thing missing would be work/live between multi family and pure commercial.

 

[Kurt]

This will be the first major commercial project from Santa Rosa Beach to Inlet Beach. I hope that we can work together with Joe and the county to set a good precedent for the community.

Thanks for posting, and being involved. I urge everyone to attend meetings to give input. Talk to developers and officials outside of meetings, and write letters and emails.

Also please know that by posting here, your views are seen by those who are making decisions, and you are participating in an important discourse, and means of providing education.

 

[Smiling JOe]

swgb, I don't see this as transect planning at all. The property goes from commercial big box stores to single family residential, with no transition at all. I have attended only one Transect Planning mtg, so maybe I'm missing something, but I thought that smooth transitions, not only of use, but size of buildings was critical to Transect Planning. Maybe one of the experts will chime in (please).

 

[Matt J]

swgb, I don't see this as transect planning at all. The property goes from commercial big box stores to single family residential, with no transition at all. I have attended only one Transect Planning mtg, so maybe I'm missing something, but I thought that smooth transitions, not only of use, but size of buildings was critical to Transect Planning. Maybe one of the experts will chime in (please).

SJ, from the original post:

Phase two- directly behind the big box, 4 apartment bldgs for seniors, 190 units and a 110 unit assisted living facility.

That would be the transition I was referring to. It's not exactly the visual for transect planning, but it's closer than a big box store backing up to an established single family community.